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Obama Compares Islamic Terrorists to Christians
Creative Minority Report ^ | February 6, 2015 | MATTHEW ARCHBOLD

Posted on 02/06/2015 2:20:36 PM PST by NYer

What is wrong with this man?

In the midst of what has been a videotaped bloodbath in recent weeks with stonings, beheadings, and one man even being set aflame, President Obama took to the podium of the National Prayer Breakfast to criticize the “terrible deeds” . . . committed “in the name of Christ” throughout the pass two thousand years or so.

"And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ," he said. "In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ."

Jonah Goldberg writes:

But, as odd as it may sound for a guy named Goldberg to point it out, the Inquisition and the Crusades aren’t the indictments Obama thinks they are. For starters, the Crusades — despite their terrible organized cruelties — were a defensive war.

“The Crusades could more accurately be described as a limited, belated and, in the last analysis, ineffectual response to the jihad — a failed attempt to recover by a Christian holy war what had been lost to a Muslim holy war,” writes Bernard Lewis, the greatest living English-language historian of Islam.

As for the Inquisition, it needs to be clarified that there was no single “Inquisition,” but many. And most were not particularly nefarious. For centuries, whenever the Catholic Church launched an inquiry or investigation, it mounted an “inquisition,” which means pretty much the same thing.

Historian Thomas Madden, director of the Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies at Saint Louis University, writes that the “Inquisition was not born out of desire to crush diversity or oppress people; it was rather an attempt to stop unjust executions.”

In medieval Europe, heresy was a crime against the state, Madden explains. Local nobles, often greedy, illiterate, and eager to placate the mob, gleefully agreed to execute people accused of witchcraft or some other forms of heresy. By the 1100s, such accusations were causing grave injustices (in much the same way that apparatchiks in Communist countries would level charges of disloyalty in order to have rivals “disappeared”).

“The Catholic Church’s response to this problem was the Inquisition,” Madden explains, “first instituted by Pope Lucius III in 1184.”

I cannot defend everything done under the various Inquisitions — especially in Spain — because some of it was indefensible. But there’s a very important point to make here that transcends the scoring of easy, albeit deserved, points against Obama’s approach to Islamic extremism (which he will not call Islamic): Christianity, even in its most terrible days, even under the most corrupt popes, even during the most unjustifiable wars, was indisputably a force for the improvement of man.

Christianity ended greater barbarisms under pagan Rome. The church often fell short of its ideals — which all human things do — but its ideals were indisputably a great advance for humanity. Similarly, while some rationalized slavery and Jim Crow in the U.S. by invoking Christianity, it was ultimately the ideals of Christianity itself that dealt the fatal blow to those institutions. Just read any biography of Martin Luther King Jr. if you don’t believe me.

When Obama alludes to the evils of medieval Christianity, he fails to acknowledge the key word: “medieval.” What made medieval Christianity backward wasn’t Christianity but medievalism.
Notice he names Christianity in those crimes but can't bring himself to name Islam at fault for their crimes.

And Obama is not president during medieval times. He's president of the USA right now. And just because bad things have been done by Christians, doesn't excuse atrocities occurring right now. Is he intimating some kind of comeuppance for Christians? Is that what he's really saying? Is he implying that the jihadi bloodbath is somehow the result of the Crusades?

And let's face it, Obama doesn't seem all that uncomfortable with the idea of an Inquisition as he's perfectly willing to punish those who fail to live up to his moral standards such as Catholic owned businesses that don't want to pay for abortifacients for their employees.


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Islam; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: crusades; inquisition; obama; oldnews
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1 posted on 02/06/2015 2:20:36 PM PST by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 02/06/2015 2:20:56 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

sick of this radical


3 posted on 02/06/2015 2:24:17 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

I despise this man more and more every day.


4 posted on 02/06/2015 2:28:18 PM PST by madmominct
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To: madmominct

There is no words to describe him for me.

We all know he lies with impunity , we all know he is a radical drugged dope head and, we all know he does not love this country at all nor does his wife.

Yet the media covers for him all the time and they sit there in the press briefings like a cult minus the guy who works for FOX.


5 posted on 02/06/2015 2:31:14 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: NYer

Better watch this fast, it may be blocked soon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MioNZBRrKZg


6 posted on 02/06/2015 2:32:20 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: madmominct
a little...something to make obie a tad more bearable




7 posted on 02/06/2015 2:34:29 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: NYer

What a pathetic jerk. Truly an embarassment to America.


8 posted on 02/06/2015 2:38:56 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: NYer
ISLAM IS NOT A THREAT? Tell that to…

Former Muslim, Brother Rachid - Schools President Obama on Islam

2/6/15 | The Indicrat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnkPmeF3fSY

Excellent Speech. Brother Rachid addresses President Obama about ISIL and Islam; he explains to him how ISIL is imitating the prophet Muhammad in every detail they do. ISIL represents Islam.

ISLAM RELIGION OF THE SWORD

Obama’s father was Muslim, and by Islamic law, he was Muslim by birth. He was educated as Muslim in Indonesia, the most populated Muslim country in the world. Obama knows their prayers, and praised them as the most beautiful sound in the world. He studied the ”holy” Koran and Muhammad teachings. (Obama never call holy the Bible)

Obama’s sickly sweet version of Islam contradicts reality.

Obama, might not know American history, or that United States have 50 states, no 53; but he knows well the bloody history of Islam, even though he still call it a “religion of peace”.

It is a well known fact the bloody history of Islam, but Obama, and a gutless media, still call it a “religion of peace”, even though that in the name of Allah more than 220 millions infidels have been slaughtered by Muslim, since the prophet of Allah beheaded in 627 AD over 700 hundred men and the pubescent boys and enslaved the women and children. In doing this, he wiped entirely the last remaining major tribe of Jews in Medina: the Qurayza.

Under Obama’s lawless regime we might see beheading in U.S. spreading as a virus more lethal than Ebola.

Beheading is Islam M.O., That’s Why Mohammed Owned a Sword Named “Cleaver of Vertebrae”

Posted By Daniel Greenfield On September 30, 2014

Islam really is the religion of the sword. Mohammed had a huge sword collection, a lot of them stolen from other people, and he gave a name to each of his swords because he was kind of a psycho. One of his favorite swords was Dhu al-Faqar or “Cleaver of Vertebrae”. When you see this kind of sword on a Jihadist flag, that’s ole Faqar. Muslim legend says that the sword was given to Mohammed by an angel. Actually he looted it in battle or his followers did.”

“Dhu al-Faqar is the name of this sword, taken as Booty by the prophet Muhammad at the Battle of Badr. It is reported that the prophet Muhammad gave the sword to Ali b. Abi Talib, and that Ali returned from the Battle of Uhud covered with blood from his hands to his shoulders, having Dhu al-Faqar with him. “

To avoid the fate of Lebanon o Eurasia, mass deportation of Muslims is in order. Close the door to more Muslim immigration. Close Mosques involve in promotion of hate against US or promoting Islamic terrorism.

It’s Time to Take the Islamic State Seriously Rev. James V. Schall, S.J.

http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/time-take-islamic-state-seriously

CRISIS MAGAZINE September 23, 2014

9 posted on 02/06/2015 2:39:49 PM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: NYer

there’s nothing wrong with him, other than he’s on the wrong side of course

(minor detail, certainly nothing we need to be concerned about)


10 posted on 02/06/2015 2:41:56 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..&#128540;)
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To: gorush
Wow ... MUST VIEW VIDEO! I have never forgotten how the Palestinian's received the news of the collapse of the Twin Towers.

Palestinians celebrating the fall of the twin towers on 911

11 posted on 02/06/2015 2:47:41 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: manc

The man on his high horse tells Christians they shouldn’t get on their high horses.


12 posted on 02/06/2015 2:52:53 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: NYer

He is a Muslim and hates everyone else.


13 posted on 02/06/2015 3:29:39 PM PST by MamaB
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To: GoldenPup

And the world.


14 posted on 02/06/2015 3:34:01 PM PST by MamaB
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To: The_Media_never_lie

nail on the head there. Very well put.

To have even brought up the Crusades which had to happen due to muslim violence and invasion is pathetic.
He basically was saying they are justified in their actions because Christians did something wrong a thousand years ago


15 posted on 02/06/2015 3:36:41 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: NYer

Muslims really hate Christians, and he continues this tradition with his speech at the prayer breakfast. I’m surprised he didn’t declare Jihad on Christians Americans at the breakfast, although he might have during his morning prayers to the Ka aba stone


16 posted on 02/06/2015 3:50:38 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: NYer
The following paragraph is excerpted from the CENTENNIAL Thanksgiving Sermon, DELIVERED BY REV. B. W. ARNETT, B. D., AT ST. PAUL A. M. E. CHURCH, URBANA, OHIO 1876 - available in the "Library of Congress - Historical Collections" - "African-American Pamphlets from the Daniel A. P. Murray Collection," 1820-1920; American Memory, Washington, DC.

This historical treasure is one which should be prominent in our national discussions, especially now, when our philosophical foundations are being challenged, and when the views of a learned man like Dr. Arnett might shed light on centuries-old ideas about America's history. His theme: Righteousness Exalteth a Nation, but Sin is a Reproach to any People."

"Withdraw from Christendom the Bible, the Church with its sacraments and ministry, and Christian morality and hopes, and aspirations for time and eternity; repeal all the laws that are founded in the Christian Scriptures; remove the Christian humanities in the form of hospitals and asylums, and reformatories and institutions of mercy utterly unknown to unchristian countries; destroy the literature, the culture, the institutions of learning, the art, the refinement, the place of woman in her home and in society, which owe their origin and power to Christianity; blot out all faith in Divine Providence, love, and righteousness; turn back every believer in Christ to his former state; remove all thought or hope of the forgiveness of sins by a just but gracious God; erase the name of Christ from every register it sanctifies—in a word annihilate all the legitimate and logical effects of Christianity in Christendom—just accomplish in fact what multitudes of gifted and learned minds are wishing and trying to accomplish by their science, philosophy, and criticism, and what multitudes of the common people desire and seek, and not only would all progress toward and unto perfection cease, but not one of the shining lights of infidelity would shine much longer. Yes, the bitterest enemies of this holy and blessed religion, owe their ability to be enemies to its sacred revelations - to the inspiration and sublimity of that faith which reflects its glories on their hostile natures. They live in the strength of that which they would destroy. They are raised to their seats of opportunity and power by the grace of Him they would crucify afresh; and is it to be thought that they are stronger than that which gives them strength? Can it be supposed that a religion which civilizes and subdues, and elevates and blesses will succumb to the enmities it may arouse and quicken in its onward march? Are we to tremble for the ark of God when God is its upholder, and protector, and preserver?”
Dr. Arnett, an A.M.E. Minister and Ohio State Legislator, was invited to publish this remarkable sermon commemorating the Centennial of the Declaration of Independence by the following method:

To:

Rev. B. W. ARNETT, B. D.

Dear Pastor:

Will you please prepare your “Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon” for publication: together with whatever matter pertaining to the colored people of this city, you deem worth preserving.

We make this request of you, believing that the publication of such matter, will be of benefit to the present and succeeding generations.

Yours Respectfully,

J GAITER
J. DEMPCY
C. L, GANT
Trustees W. A. STILGASS, W. O. BOWLES

Urbana, O.

December 7th, 1876

J GAITER, J. DEMPCY, C. L, GANT

Trustees W. A. STILGASS, W. O. BOWLES

Yours is at hand, requesting me to prepare my "Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon" for publication. If you think that my words will be of any advantage to you, and those whom you have the honor of representing, I am willing to leave it to your judgement and will prepare my feeble effort for the press: hoping that, if there is nothing new in it, at least I may awaken some one to follow "the Moccasin tracks of Righteousness, and the Foot Prints of sin on the sands of time," and be better prepared for the duties they owe to themselves, their families, their country, and their God.

I am, yours,

BENJAMIN W. ARNETT

____________________

At another point in his long "Thanksgiving Sermon," Dr. Arnett made the following assertion about America and "wherein lies its greatness":

"Let us see what it is that makes us so great; wherein lies our strength. What has made us one of the greatest powers of the earth, politically and intellectually? Have we come to the conclusion that it is Righteousness that exalteth a nation? We have met to-day at the request of the President of the United States, Ulysses S. Grant, and also the Governor of our beloved State, Rutherford B. Hayes. For what? Why call us from our homes? Why come to the house of God? Why not go to the hall of mirth and to the places of amusement to-day? No that is not what they want us to do. We are commanded to go to our 'several places of worship, and there offer up thanks to Kind Providence which has brought our nation through the scenes of another year, and blessed the land with peace, plenty and prosperity.' Then as Americans we have reason to rejoice and congratulate ourselves on the greatness of our beloved country; at this the close of the first hundred years of experimental government of the people, by the people, and for the people. To be a citizen of this vast country is something, and to share in its privileges and duties is more than something." - Dr. Benjaming W. Arnett, St. Paul A.M.E. Church, Urbana, Ohio, Centennial Thanksgiving Sermon, November 1876

17 posted on 02/06/2015 4:16:19 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: NYer

Listen to the emotion is $hithead’s voice as he says that. That tells you where his heart is, and it’s not with you and me.


18 posted on 02/06/2015 4:21:59 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: NYer

Obama Compares Islamic Terrorists to the Little Sisters of the Poor

ther fixed it


19 posted on 02/06/2015 4:41:55 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (re (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))
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Obummer Says Terrorist Christians are Nuns With Guns.


20 posted on 02/06/2015 4:44:25 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (re (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))
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