Is the Mass the Real Sacrifice of Christ?

In Plain Site ^ | Febuary 7 ,2015 | James G. McCarthy

[2nd amendment mama]

I never said that I didn’t know - I want you to define your interpretation of “crucified” to make sure that you truly know what you’re asking of me. Stop answering my questions with obfuscation! Let’s see how smart you think you are by answering my question.

[af_vet_1981]

LOL I saw your lame attempt at twisting the words of that passage. I doubt anyone with reading comprehension bought your tripe.

Your "quote" is transparently false. That you additionally do not understand the Berean reference is obvious.

[Romulus]

Please show documented proof.

The proof is that the Church teaches them. The Church, who's the pillar of truth. Your view of Church and bible is upside down. The Church authenticates Scripture because it comes from her. The Bible authenticates nothing, interprets nothing. All of that is the Church's job.

[RnMomof7]

What secret knowledge does “Rome” have?

It has its own "infallible prophet"

Its own secret prophets and seers

Its own secret powers to "dispense grace"as it teaches..

Its secrets are the only way to be saved surely all Catholics know that "secret"

[metmom]

The Bible authenticates nothing, interprets nothing.

2 Timothy 3:14-17 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

All of that is the Church's job.

Like these guys?Top 10 Most Wicked Popes

http://listverse.com/2007/08/17/top-10-most-wicked-popes/

1. Liberius, reigned 352-66 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
2. Honorius I, reigned 625-638 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
3. Stephen VI, reigned 896-89 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
4. John XII, reigned 955-964 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
5. Benedict IX, reigned 1032-1048 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
6. Boniface VIII, reigned 1294-1303 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
7. Urban VI, reigned 1378-1389 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
8. Alexander VI, reigned 1492-1503 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
9. Leo X, reigned 1513-1521 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
10. Clement VII, reigned 1523-1524 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]

Top 10 Worst Popes in History

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-popes-in-history.php

1. Pope Alexander VI (1431 – 1503)
2. Pope John XII (c. 937 – 964)
3. Pope Benedict IX (c. 1012 – 1065/85)
4. Pope Sergius III (? – 911)
5. Pope Stephen VI (? – 897)
6. Pope Julius III (1487 – 1555)
7. Pope Urban II (ca. 1035 – 1099)
8. Pope Clement VI (1291 – 1352)
9. Pope Leo X (1475 – 1521)
10. Pope Boniface VIII (c. 1235 – 1303)

Pope kissing Koran

YOUR pope kissing the koran. Fits right in with YOUR Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

[CynicalBear]

>>The proof is that the Church teaches them.<<

So your faith is in the "church"!! Good luck with that.

>>The Church, who's the pillar of truth.<<

Prove it by other than scripture because you don't believe in Sola Scriptura.

>>All of that is the Church's job.<<

Prove it please. And not Sola Scriptura!!!!!

[WVKayaker]

Is God omniscient or not ?? -Mom

Apparently prots don't think so, if He can't turn bread and wine into His literal Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity! - vergie

Hahahahaaaa.! For someone so (supposedly) learned, it seems another error appears.

Omniscient is defined as "knowing all". I read the screed as (apparently) incorrect by using that term instead of the actually accurate, "omnipotent" which is defined as "all powerful"!

Again, demonstrating ANOTHER error of the "PR" department of the Catholic cult!

[Romulus]

Sola Scriptura is unscriptural. We have already established that. Please try to keep up.

[CynicalBear]

>>The Bible authenticates nothing,<<

Then how did the Catholic Church claim authentic apostolic succession. How did it claim authentic authority? How did it claim authentic Eucharist? No Sola Scriptura in you answer now.

[CynicalBear]

All those Catholic Church “authentic claims” and none of it from scripture!!! Amazing isn’t it?

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

It’s embarrassing that there are those who claim to know Christ, claim to believe in He who is The Truth, yet either have an utter disregard for the truth or know the truth and have utter contempt for it. They are controlled by a spirit and do his will very well.

[CynicalBear]

>>Sola Scriptura is unscriptural. We have already established that. Please try to keep up.<<

That's why I told you to prove all the authority of the Catholic Church without relying on Sola Scriptura. I surely don't want you to deny you belief on Sola Scriptura. So how about it. Got those proofs ready? Not just from scripture remember.

[verga]

Another prot making no sense whatsoever.

[Romulus]

Then how did the Catholic Church claim authentic apostolic succession.

The same way she did in Antioch, when believers were first known as Christians. before any NT book had been written. Proving you can have a Church without a Bible.

[Romulus]

The proof is in the apostolic witness, handed down by those who have received authority by the laying on of hands. The NT is the part of that witness that’s been written down.

[CynicalBear]

>>The same way she did in Antioch, when believers were first known as Christians. before any NT book had been written.<<

Nope, that dog won't hunt. That's scripture alone. You will have to stop using that Sola Scriptura. You don't believe in it remember.

[CynicalBear]

>>The proof is in the apostolic witness, handed down by those who have received authority by the laying on of hands.<<

Nope. Once again, that's scripture. Peter said so.

[metmom]

They hang their hats to support their various doctrines on random verses from the Scripture that they claim can’t authenticate anything.

[metmom]

The same way she did in Antioch, when believers were first known as Christians. before any NT book had been written. Proving you can have a Church without a Bible.

So whoever said you couldn't?

However, while they didn't have the compilation of Scripture in one handy book called the Bible, they did have Scripture.

And the NT used it before oral tradition came along.

[verga]

Let’s see how smart you think you are by answering my question.

You Are the one guilty of that. and it appears that I have hit a nerve by not plying your prot games with the gotcha questions.