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Declaring and Defending the Deity of Christ
Grace to You ^ | October 12, 2012 | John MacArthur

Posted on 02/16/2015 8:27:19 AM PST by redleghunter

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To: CynicalBear

For later study.


141 posted on 02/17/2015 3:01:30 PM PST by MWestMom (Down, down, down the rabbit hole we go.....)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

You can keep throwing verses at me that try and justify the pagan belief that man can be God and God can be man, but until you take time to study biblical Hebrew, realize how many translation errors there are, and know the proper context of those words in Hebrew you’ll keep grasping for straws with verses like those.


142 posted on 02/17/2015 6:48:43 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten Jews shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a gentile, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.”


143 posted on 02/17/2015 6:54:22 PM PST by hlmencken3 (“I paid for an argument, but you’re just contradicting!”)
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To: hlmencken3

Isaiah 56:7
“I will bring them to my holy mountain of Jerusalem and will fill them with joy in my house of prayer. I will accept their burnt offerings and sacrifices, because my Temple will be called a house of prayer for all nations.”

The verse you posted and this verse talk about a time in the future one day where rabbis will be in demand by non-Jews on a large scale. All people will recognize one Torah, one rest day (Saturday), one God, one people, one language (Hebrew), and many other ones. Synagogues will be packed to the gills with people wanting to know the unvarnished, unadulterated truth on a daily basis, and anti-Semitism will exist no more. All the nations will send representatives to the Third Temple to pray, fast, and learn. This does not mean they’ll become Jews (maybe a small percentage), but will become B’nai Noach.

This sounds optimistic but I think over the next 100 years this will become more or less reality based on what I am seeing around me happen. Probably less than 100.


144 posted on 02/17/2015 7:07:29 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; hlmencken3

That will all happen with Jesus sitting as King Jack. It will be after His return to this earth.


145 posted on 02/17/2015 7:23:19 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

We’ll know in 2017 whether it is Jesus or Obama!


146 posted on 02/17/2015 7:26:45 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: CynicalBear

Deuteronomy 13:

7. If your brother, the son of your mother, tempts you in secret or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your embrace, or your friend, who is as your own soul saying, “Let us go and worship other gods, which neither you, nor your forefathers have known.”

8. Of the gods of the peoples around you, [whether] near to you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth;

9. You shall not desire him, and you shall not hearken to him; neither shall you pity him, have mercy upon him, nor shield him...


147 posted on 02/17/2015 7:41:08 PM PST by hlmencken3 (“I paid for an argument, but you’re just contradicting!”)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

http://qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/proverbs/30.html

Thought you might be interested.


148 posted on 02/17/2015 9:09:55 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Who’s doing the translating?


149 posted on 02/17/2015 9:12:12 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

http://qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/proverbs/30.html


I thought you read Hebrew and was hoping if it was mistranslated you might give me a closer approximation.

I promise I’m not trying to trip you up, nor am I concerned about who scores points in an argument; but when there is eternity at stake it is not something to be taken lightly.


150 posted on 02/17/2015 9:21:01 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

I understand your concern.

The translations look okay. I’m not an expert in Biblical Hebrew by any stretch of the imagination. At least spot checking verses it seems okay.

You can check out Chabad’s translation which I find pretty good and compare it to what the Christians have done.
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16401

Keep in mind that no matter how accurate the translation much gets lost in the depth of what the Hebrew is trying to say to the reader.


151 posted on 02/17/2015 9:44:28 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
>>We’ll know in 2017 whether it is Jesus or Obama!<<

No we won't Jack. Jesus will be sitting as King in Zion. Obama and all the "kings of the earth" will have been destroyed by that time.

152 posted on 02/18/2015 5:11:42 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: hlmencken3

I suppose that meant something to you as it pertains to the conversation but I surely missed what it could be.


153 posted on 02/18/2015 5:14:50 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

We’ll see!


154 posted on 02/18/2015 5:30:23 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Anyone who does not accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah will not see that time.


155 posted on 02/18/2015 6:02:19 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I understand your concern.

The translations look okay. I’m not an expert in Biblical Hebrew by any stretch of the imagination. At least spot checking verses it seems okay.

You can check out Chabad’s translation which I find pretty good and compare it to what the Christians have done.
http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16401

Keep in mind that no matter how accurate the translation much gets lost in the depth of what the Hebrew is trying to say to the reader.


Thanks for the link. Hebrew is a fascinating language.


156 posted on 02/18/2015 8:51:30 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: CynicalBear

If you say so.


157 posted on 02/18/2015 8:32:47 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Just the study of the letters are a fascinating start!


158 posted on 02/18/2015 8:33:31 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; CynicalBear
Prayer, fasting, and tzedakah (giving to charity).

Yes such is mentioned in Torah. However, with no blood to atone for sins, and a High priest to offer those sacrifices no forgiveness of sins. This is a huge 'gloss' for modern people of the Jewish faith.

159 posted on 03/11/2015 10:54:06 AM PDT by redleghunter (In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth (Gen. 1:1))
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