The devil probably really likes it when we stop talking about this guy and start picking on each other.
Posted on 02/16/2015 12:14:36 PM PST by RnMomof7
Why so hateful in your reply?
You must be referring to Martin Luther. I’m not a Lutheran nor a Protestant. Your comment missed the mark. I’m a believer in and follower of Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, and Him alone.
This is all academic to me. I couldn’t care less about some phony priest with a funny hat who tells us he’s penniless and celibate when he lives in unparalleled luxury among a battalion of homosexuals in red dresses. The idea is ludicrous.
Christians? Christian means one follows the teaching of Christ and His apostles. Would you please show where they taught the assumption of Mary and the requirement to believe that to be part of His "church"?
The devil probably really likes it when we stop talking about this guy and start picking on each other.
True historical record? Not even the Catholic Church can prove that Linus was even a Bishop.
"Very little is known about Linus. St. Irenaeus of Lyons (d. 200) and the historian Eusebius of Caesarea (d. ca. 339) identified him with the companion of Paul who sent greetings from Rome to Timothy in Ephesus (2 Timothy 4:21), but Scripture Scholars are generally hesistant to do so...It should be remembered that contrary to pious Catholic belief--that monoarchical episcopal structure of church governance (also known as the monarchical episcopate, in which each diocese was headed by a single bishop) still did not exist in Rome at this time (McBrien, Richard P. Lives of the Popes: The Pontiffs from St. Peter to Benedict XVI. Harper, San Francisco, 2005 updated ed., pp. 33-34). [McBrien, Richard P. Lives of the Popes: The Pontiffs from St. Peter to Benedict XVI. Harper, San Francisco, 2005 updated ed., pp. 33-34.]
McBrien was a Catholic priest and Professor of Theology at the University of Notre Dame. Information on him can be found here. He was also the general editor of the Encyclopedia of Catholicism.
That's just a tiny beginning to the proofs that Catholics have made up the "succession of popes".
Yes, all you have to do to see that there are “bigger fish to fry” is to look at those recent pictures of the poor Christians beheaded by radical jihadists. The biggest reason for the Crusades was the lack of Christian unity against this kind of cruelty (East vs West). It is happening again. Where will you be when they once again try to extinguish Jerusalem? We had better all hang together or be beheaded separately, if we are all not run out of town first by our own domestic nemesis-the ubiquitous secular culture. It is wise to know who your real enemies are. Hint: they are not anyone who professes love of Christ.
Disagree. That person can do nothing at all unless Almighty God allows him to.
This war that’s been raging goes much deeper than political inclinations and political office-holders. Our common enemy has been hiding in plain view, though, except for the deceptive wool that’s been pulled over many people’s sight.
Would you please show where Christ and His Apostles taught "the Bible alone as the sole or ultimate rule of faith?"
This principle cuts both ways, if you want to be intellectually honest.
Luther's tradition doesn't show up until 14 centuries after Christ.
The Assumption can be traced back at least to the fifth century in writing. Additionally, there are no relics of Mary, which would have been prized possessions in the early Church.
There is also biblical evidence supporting Mary's Assumption.
We know from Luke that Jesus has inherited the throne of David, and from Revelation that he holds the "key of David." Jesus is the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom, the Kingdom of God, or Christ's Church.
In the ancient Davidic kingdom, the mother of the king, the "Gebirah" or "Queen Mother" held a position greater than that of the wives of the king. The Bible records her sitting on a throne at the right hand of the king.
Mary, as Jesus' mother, is the Queen Mother of the eternal, redeemed Davidic kingdom. She is the Queen of Heaven, as seen in Revelation.
If one surveys all of the Catholic threads on FR, you'd be hard pressed to believe it's anyone but ignorant Protestants!
Sounds like you need a reparation payment! Feel free to write your own check.
Substantiate your assertion.
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The Catholic Church can't even prove Linus was even a Bishop. They took is name from a list of three names listed as friends of Paul mentioned only ONCE in scripture and not in any secular or other writings.
The word pope derives from Greek πάππας meaning "Father". In the early centuries of Christianity, this title was applied, especially in the east, to all bishops and other senior clergy, and later became reserved in the west to the Bishop of Rome, a reservation made official only in the 11th century. [Schatz, Klaus (1996). Papal Primacy. Liturgical Press. pp. 28–29. ISBN 9780814655221.]
The earliest record of the use of this title was in regard to the by then deceased Patriarch of Alexandria, Pope Heraclas of Alexandria [Eusebius, Historia Ecclesiastica Book VII, chapter 7.7]
The title was from the early 3rd century a general term used to refer to all bishops. ["Pope", Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, Oxford University Press, 2005]
Oooops. What's this "unbroken line" nonsense?
On behalf of the Christians who were martyred during those epochs, the Lord rebuke you.
Well you should love this pope working to bring all religions together in a "get along" prayer fest and one world religion. And how about that statement by the Catholic Church that you and the Muslims serve the same god!
Do you think it wise to take the time to comment on these Protestant-Catholic threads when there are bigger fish to fry? Isn't there another bigger fish to fry thread that needs your attention? You could just go ahead and start the thread that you think should have been started instead of this one.
Rebukes me, through you? God's own spokesman are you? And here I was thinking you guys didn't approve of popes.
Oh, and did you want a check as well?
Galatians 1:9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God's curse!
"It should be noted that though many might write concerning Catholic truth, there is this difference that those who wrote the canonical Scripture, the Evangelists and Apostles, and the like, so constantly assert it that they leave no room for doubt. That is what he means when he says 'we know his witness is true.' Galatians 1:9, "If anyone preach a gospel to you other than that which you have received, let him be anathema!" The reason is that only canonical Scripture is a measure of faith. Others however so wrote of the truth that they should not be believed save insofar as they say true things." (St. Thomas Aquinas, Commentary on the Gospel of John 21) [(Romae: Marietti E ditori Ltd., 1952) n. 2656, p. 488.]
In Latin: "Cuius ratio est, quia sola canonica scriptura est regula fidei."
Go figure! Sola Scriptura way before Luther! And in comments made on Galatians 1:9 no less!
If you are prosecuting a murder case and the defending lawyer asks for the murder weapon, you can't toss him a Mossberg catalog.
Specifics Alex, specifics.
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