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Is The Roman Catholic View of the Eucharist Supported by the Historical Evidence?
In Plain Site ^ | Jason Engwer

Posted on 02/20/2015 12:33:03 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: MHGinTN

He is no ‘respecter’ of persons...

;^)


561 posted on 02/25/2015 4:00:08 AM PST by Elsie
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To: ealgeone

Irony?

Whiney sniveling is more like it!


562 posted on 02/25/2015 4:00:48 AM PST by Elsie
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To: elhombrelibre
Thanks, I won’t waste my time on this part of FReeRepublic.

The situation has been assessed correctly.

563 posted on 02/25/2015 4:01:57 AM PST by Elsie
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To: elhombrelibre
Yes, mocking, denigrating, and insulting is tolerated. I won’t waste my time with it. It’s not civil and not Christian.

 


 
Matthew 15:16
   "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.

Matthew 23
 
  1.  Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
  2.  "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
  3.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
  4.  They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
  5.  "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries  wide and the tassels on their garments long;
  6.  they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
  7.  they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
  8.  "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
  9.  And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
 10.  Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
 11.  The greatest among you will be your servant.
 12.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
 13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
 14.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 
 15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 
 16.  "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
 17.  You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
 18.  You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
 19.  You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
 20.  Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
 21.  And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
 22.  And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
 23.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
 24.  You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
 25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
 26.  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
 27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
 28.  In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
 29.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
 30.  And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
 31.  So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
 32.  Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
 33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
 34.  Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
 35.  And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
 36.  I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
 37.  "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
 38.  Look, your house is left to you desolate.
 39.  For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
 


Mark 7:26-27
 26.  The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
 27.  "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
 

And St. Paul chimes in...

Galatians 5:12
   As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
 


564 posted on 02/25/2015 4:03:51 AM PST by Elsie
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To: ealgeone

No where did I say that. You misrepresent my position and therefore knock down a straw man. Mary’s YES is a singular YES just as EVE’s NO was a singular NO in our salvation history. That is why Catholics venerate Mary. Mary is not a goddess, but she’s unique. There is no “Father, if You are willing, remove this cup from Me; yet not My will, but Yours be done,” without, “Be it done to me according to Thy Word.” I am not elevating Mary above Jesus; I am merely stating the facts. Protestants, especially Protestants with Calvinist leanings, have a very difficult time understanding free will. Mary consented; Eve defied.


565 posted on 02/25/2015 4:44:17 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: Elsie

Why do you keep posting to me? I’ve told you at least twice I do not you to. Your comments do anything but ridicule. I ask you again not to post to me.


566 posted on 02/25/2015 5:27:03 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Ya post stuff in public; ya gotta accept the fact that some weirdo is going to reply.

Do ankle nippers REALLY cause you that much trouble?




567 posted on 02/25/2015 7:13:50 AM PST by Elsie
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To: elhombrelibre
Thanks, I won’t waste my time on this part of FReeRepublic.

I thought you were leavin'?

568 posted on 02/25/2015 7:15:25 AM PST by Elsie
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To: Ge0ffrey

Beautifully stated ... and I’m not even a Catholic, only catholic.


569 posted on 02/25/2015 7:56:55 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Elsie

Buddy, there is something seriously wrong with you.


570 posted on 02/25/2015 8:20:06 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Religion Moderator; Elsie

Your laughable

Because if your not part of the solution - and you definitely aren’t

Then your part of the problem and the reason I stopped donating to FR

You tolerate morons like Elsie on the forum who is not all there

and censor folks with reasoned arguments


571 posted on 02/25/2015 12:19:01 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98

It is disappointing. I guess it says a lot about what the site things of the Catholics who have been posting here and donating for many years. Not very inspiring.


572 posted on 02/25/2015 12:20:40 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

The forum on catholicanswers.com is much better


573 posted on 02/25/2015 12:26:59 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Thank you for your donations in the past.

Personal comments tend to make the thread about a poster rather than the subject.

Name calling is considered personal and also takes the thread away from reasoned debate.

Reasoned arguments are acceptable but making it personal is not.

Please go over the rules posted on my profile page which you can go to by clicking on my name below.

Scroll down to the topic “open threads.”


574 posted on 02/25/2015 12:41:51 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: LurkingSince'98; elhombrelibre
>>The forum on catholicanswers.com is much better<<

And still, here you are.

575 posted on 02/25/2015 12:53:11 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

I come to laugh at the apostates and anathemas.

Never has so little been known by so many.


576 posted on 02/25/2015 1:02:00 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Of course you did.


577 posted on 02/25/2015 1:19:54 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: elhombrelibre
Buddy, there is something seriously wrong with you.

You might be right; but shouldn't I really come in for a professional checkup?

578 posted on 02/25/2015 1:52:47 PM PST by Elsie
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To: LurkingSince'98
Then your part of the problem and the reason I stopped donating to FR

Are we to assume your puckishness over lil ol' me is greater that your willingness to support a great conservative mouthpiece such as FreeRepublic??

HMMMmmm...

Even the Libs accept all of their Quixotic individuals.

579 posted on 02/25/2015 1:56:55 PM PST by Elsie
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To: LurkingSince'98
You tolerate morons like Elsie on the forum who is not all there

Now Catholics have been known to occasionally lose control.

Can't we all just get along; and bury the hatchet?

580 posted on 02/25/2015 1:59:10 PM PST by Elsie
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