Oh YEAH??
Posted on 02/24/2015 2:52:23 PM PST by RnMomof7
How can being secure in your salvation be *dangerous*?
That is a very good question. I am sorry if others are not secure. I am sorry if they have to strain at life, hoping they can work their way to Heaven, then sink into the tomb, without one ray of hope for salvation. What a terrifying moment for millions, and what a sorry existence that must be. Those who try to establish their own righteousness, they are fallen from grace. Unfortunately, there are many cults out there, teaching this very thing. They need to give up that terrible pride, and do what the thread says, REPENT. Sound reasonable to you?
see how well those private confessionals work...NO RECORD and the seal of Confession was practiced then too AMAZING!!
Being naive and refusing to accept Christ's own church can be VERY dangerous
We know that there is....and one was founded in the 1930's....be very careful of that one...
You mean I don’t need two turtle doves and an unblemished goat any more? Good, cuz those were getting hard to find. (Written with my tongue squarely in my cheek.)
🙈🙈🙉 Yes, I am careful. Actually, I haven't seen them since the 80s, but I am thankful they told me the truth, and I was able to get out of a certain religion, that will remain unnamed, but perhaps you know what it was. 😇 I am comfortable in my security, and comfortable in my OSAS status. It is great. I don't waste time trying to establish my own righteousness. I am not fallen from grace. If others are not secure, it's on them, because they can be. Ok, if you will excuse me, I have people to preach to now. I need to help them become confident in their eternal security. They are happy with it. I am happy for them. Try it, you might like it. 😟😦😄😄😀
metanoeó: to change one's mind or purpose
Original Word: μετανοέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: metanoeó
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an-o-eh'-o)
Short Definition: I repent, change my mind
Definition: I repent, change my mind, change the inner man (particularly with reference to acceptance of the will of God), repent.
The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. (2 Timothy 2:24-26)
Godly repentance is what brings us to saving faith in Jesus Christ. Jesus said whosoever believed in Him would HAVE everlasting life. The theory that the OSAS theory is nonsense and dangerous IS not only nonsense it is blasphemous and therefore dangerous because it calls Jesus a liar as well as the Holy Spirit who moved holy men of God to write the great and precious promises that we are sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption once we come to faith in Christ. I'd be seriously careful lest God call one to account for preaching an accursed gospel - one that makes salvation conditional on a believer's works instead of by faith.
And it IS a very pernicious pride!
It is called the "Sin of Presumption." The Pharisees and Sadducees had it and so does anyone that believes in OSAS.
Luke 18:11"The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
The Bible disagrees with you.
Matthew 5:26 "Truly I say to you, you will not come out of there until you have paid up the last cent."
FOTFLOL!!!!!!!!
I guess the rule of the day for RC's is..... *The less evidence there is to support it, the more true it has to be.*
I’m not refusing to accept Christ’s own body.
I *AM* His body.
It’s the Catholic church claim that IT is His body which I reject.
John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
John 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”
1 Corinthians 1:4-8 I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus,that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge—even as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among you—so that you are not lacking in any gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians 1:21-22 And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
2 Corinthians 5:4-8 For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdened—not that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
Ephesians 1:13-14 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Colossians 2:13-14 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.
Colossians 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
1 Peter 1:3-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God's power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3156607/posts?page=313#313
2 Corinthians 1:21-22 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
For which the Greek, from the Byzantine, is:
2Corinthians 1:21-22 ο δε βεβαιων ημας συν υμιν εις χριστον και χρισας ημας θεος ο και σφραγισαμενος ημας και δους τον αρραβωνα του πνευματος εν ταις καρδιαις ημων
The first word in bold above is “bebaion,” the idea of confirmation, frequently used in commercial settings to confirm a bargain. Which of course makes sense of the remaining terms used here, which are also elements of a secured contract.
The second word in bold above is “sphragisamenos,” being sealed is to be marked by the signature, signet ring, or other unique proof of identity, that we belong to God, and this sealing is done by God, who is the one taking action in this verse. We do not and cannot seal ourselves. We do not, by our own powers, have access to God’s “signet ring.”
The third bolded word above is “arrabona,” and indicates what we might loosely refer to as earnest money, but in Hebrew culture conveys more the idea of a pledge of covenant, a security given as a guarantee that the deal will go through, though we only receive part payment at the beginning. See ערב for the related Hebrew stem indicating “pledge.”
Where did he institute this sacrament? Please give me reference so i can read it myself. Thanks
.When we know how unworthy we are, we keep turning to Christ in gratitude for His Love, because without it we would be doomed to eternal Hell.
We can be aware and do our best to resist temptation, but even then we will have cause to repeat Paul's lament in Romans:
14We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature.c For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
21So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful natured a slave to the law of sin.
Praise God!
And we KNOW that Christ's own church would NEVER lead anyone astray!
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
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