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Presbyterian Church (USA): 7 Votes Away From Redefining Marriage to Include Gay Couples
Christian Post ^ | 03/10/2015 | BY MICHAEL GRYBOSKI

Posted on 03/10/2015 7:34:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The largest Presbyterian denomination in the United States is only seven votes away from having enough regional bodies favor changing its official definition of marriage to include homosexual unions.

At last year's general assembly, Presbyterian Church (USA) approved an amendment changing their Book of Order's definition of marriage from being between "a man and a woman" to "two people, traditionally a man and a woman."

Known as Amendment 14-F, the possible change to the Book of Order is leading with 79 regional bodies, or presbyteries, in favor and 37 opposed.

These 79 regional bodies included the Presbytery of East Tennessee, which narrowly approved the amendment Saturday in a vote of 61-56.

In a meeting held in Chattanooga, delegates spoke for and against Amendment 14-F. According to local media, one proponent was University of Tennessee campus minister Kally Elliott.

"We have a lot of students who come into our campus ministry with their story being one of hurt and shame given to them by the church," said Elliott.

"Our goal is to share with them the love of Jesus Christ and to let them know that they are fully loved, fully welcomed as they are, who they are."

Last June the PCUSA General Assembly held in Detroit, Michigan, voted in favor of a recommendation to amend the denomination's Book of Order regarding the definition of marriage.

"A proposed amendment to change the constitution to include same-gender marriages in the church's constitution passed the General Assembly but must be ratified by a majority of the church's 172 regional presbyteries," explained PCUSA in a FAQ document.

"Presbyteries have one year to vote on the proposed amendment. If a majority ratifies the amendment, it would take effect June 21, 2015."

During the Valentine's Day weekend several presbyteries voted on Amendment 14-F, including the Presbytery of North Alabama.

"With a vote of 28 to 24, representatives … approved an amendment to the Presbyterian Book of Order, a part of the church's constitution, to allow, but not require, Presbyterian ministers to perform same-sex marriages in states where that is legal," reported Kay Campbell of al.com.

"As several ministers present at the meeting of ministers and lay leaders pointed out, ministers have always had the option to refuse to perform marriages for couples who, in their opinion, were not fit for marriage."

In an earlier interview with The Christian Post, Carmen Fowler LaBerge, president of the Presbyterian Lay Committee, a theologically conservative group, called the likely passage of Amendment 14-F "tragic, but not surprising."

"The Presbyterian Church (USA) has been actively undermining her own theological foundations for generations. This vote is simply the result of a hundred years of progressive deviation from the Truth," said LaBerge.

This is not the first time that PCUSA has garnered headlines on its internal debate over homosexuality and the Church.

In 2010, the PCUSA General Assembly approved Amendment 10a, a measure that allowed for presbyteries to ordain noncelibate homosexuals.

In response to the passage of the amendment, over 150 congregations voted to disaffiliate from the mainline denomination.

"As more and more Presbyterians in the pews wake up to the reality that their denomination has abandoned the Bible in exchange for the accommodation of sexual immorality, many of them will leave," LaBerge told CP.

"They will either leave individually or they will seek to leave corporately as a congregation. But we are seeing presbyteries constrict the ability of congregations to leave, so many will wake up too late to escape."


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; marriage; pcusa; presbyterians
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To: G Larry

A cow has four legs, unless it’s a dog.


21 posted on 03/10/2015 8:34:25 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: SeekAndFind

won’t be long now.


22 posted on 03/10/2015 8:37:02 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Unam Sanctam

“Knox and Calvin must be spinning in their graves.”

No, Calvin and Knox are with the Lord in paradise. The LORD is in control and will deal with these “heretics” in His own way and timing. Be assured, He will deal with them. It may not be on the time table we would understand.


23 posted on 03/10/2015 8:41:23 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: SeekAndFind

I did not know that they were still considered a Christian Church.


24 posted on 03/10/2015 8:44:24 AM PDT by dirtymac
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To: kingu

The preferred Bible is a loose leaf Bible whereby pages that interfere with the mindset of the shaman can be removed at will.


25 posted on 03/10/2015 8:46:37 AM PDT by dirtymac
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To: SeekAndFind

7 votes...oh, did the Holy Spirit err?


26 posted on 03/10/2015 8:46:55 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Just thank God that you are getting away from the people that are leading the church to false doctrine. you can replace a church but not your soul. Run


27 posted on 03/10/2015 8:48:57 AM PDT by dirtymac
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To: SeekAndFind

A few weeks ago, our minister told the congregation there were lots of changes coming and her was not going to fight it.

In private conversation with him, he is not happy. Many in our church are not.


28 posted on 03/10/2015 8:49:24 AM PDT by moovova
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To: SeekAndFind

sodomy is sodomy is sodomy


29 posted on 03/10/2015 8:50:36 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: moovova

A few weeks ago, our minister told the congregation there were lots of changes coming and her was not going to fight it.
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The he is for it.


30 posted on 03/10/2015 8:52:48 AM PDT by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: moovova
A few weeks ago, our minister told the congregation there were lots of changes coming and her was not going to fight it.

If he is not going to preach against sin and for repentance from sin through Christ, he might as well find a new job.

31 posted on 03/10/2015 8:56:31 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind

So what else is new? The churches that didn’t break off from the PCUS in 1973 to form the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA), were already APOSTATE back then! The “slippery slope” has just gotten steeper today.

IMHO, the PCUSA is not a Christian denomination even before the same sex marriage issue. CINO - Christian in Name Only.


32 posted on 03/10/2015 9:42:40 AM PDT by A. Patriot ("I'm not a Republican, I'm a Conservative.")
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
I wonder if we will be required to buy the church back from the main body?

Yes, it's all about the money too.

33 posted on 03/10/2015 9:51:44 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So the amazing shrinking PC-USA has not yet shrunk to the point of disappearance? Give them 2 decades and they will no longer exist.


34 posted on 03/10/2015 10:00:05 AM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Check on the legal battles over the last few years agaInst the Episcopal Church. One starting point is Virtue Online. The legal issues might be similar, and this would be a way to find legal precedents and lawyers familiar with these issues.


35 posted on 03/10/2015 3:32:12 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: omega4412

Thanks for the info!


36 posted on 03/10/2015 5:11:32 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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