What I Wish I’d Known About Catholics (And Why I’m Becoming One Now That I Do)

The Cordial Catholic ^ | March 19, 2015 | Albert Little

[JohnT416]

Jesus’s Catholic Church? The Catholic Church and all of its doctrines were not started by Yeshua. Man started the Catholic Church.

All Christians need to understand our Jewish Roots and to read the Bible that God provided to us which is his Word.

[Campion]

Definition of "venerate" from Merriam-Webster online: "to feel or show deep respect for (someone or something that is considered great, holy, etc.)".

Doesn't sound like "worship" or "adore" to me.

[verga]

I was raised Catholic. Catholics worship Mary. Pray to Mary. Ask Mary for everything under the sun.

Then you will have no trouble answering the questions ion post #93. I will repost them.

Same questions I ask all the others specifically:

1) Who taught you that Marry is divine/ God?

2) Who taught you to worship Mary as God?

3) What does the Catechism, the official teaching of the Catholic Church say about Mary?

4) Where does the Catechism say that Mary is Divine/ God, cite the paragraph?

5) Specifically what members of your family taught you to worship Mary?

6) What members of your family believe that Mary is divine?

7) What members of your family worship Mary as they do God?

If you can't give specific answers it never happened.

[NYer]

I was raised Catholic. Catholics worship Mary. Pray to Mary. Ask Mary for everything under the sun.

Ad Jesum per Mariam

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the miraculous events that took place in Mexico in the 16th century. Missionaries who first came to Mexico with the conquistadors had little success in the beginning. After nearly a generation, only a few hundred Native Mexicans had converted to the Christian faith. Whether they simply did not understand what the missionaries had to offer or whether they resented these people who made them slaves, Christianity was not popular among the native people.

Then in 1531 miracles began to happen. Jesus' own mother appeared to humble Juan Diego. The signs -- of the roses, of the uncle miraculously cured of a deadly illness, and especially of her beautiful image on Juan's mantle -- convinced the people there was something to be considered in Christianity. Within a short time, six million Native Mexicans had themselves baptized as Christians.

The first lesson is that God has chosen Mary to lead us to Jesus. No matter what critics may say of the devotion of Mexicans (and Mexican descendants) to Our Lady of Guadalupe, they owe their Christianity to her influence. If it were not for her, they would not know her son, and so they are eternally grateful. The second lesson we take from Mary herself. Mary appeared to Juan Diego not as a European madonna but as a beautiful Aztec princess speaking to him in his own Aztec language. If we want to help someone appreciate the gospel we bring, we must appreciate the culture and the mentality in which they live their lives. By understanding them, we can help them to understand and know Christ.

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[Not gonna take it anymore]

Thanks for the post.

I know there is a better picture of Our Lady of Guadalupe out there. Could you please post that here instead of this Americanized one?

TIA

P.S. My image posting skills are lacking.

[CynicalBear]

>>You spend an awful lot of time on here in a very negative way.<<<

Didn't like that I showed your statement to be false ey? Come in here making false claim and expect to be shown the truth as we are told in scripture to do.

[ADSUM]

Jesus’s Catholic Church.

Yes Jesus founded the Catholic Church with Peter and the Apostles and told them to Go forth and Baptize all nations.

Are you a denier that the Catholic Church has followed God’s Word and has spread the Faith to all nations.

[CynicalBear]

>>Are you a denier that the Catholic Church has followed God’s Word and has spread the Faith to all nations.<<

What the Catholic Church has spread is NOT the faith that Christ instituted. It' a corrupted combination of paganism and apostasy.

[metmom]

You nailed it. A brief search of prayers to Mary shows that well enough.

[verga]

Then you will have no trouble answering the questions ion post #93. I will repost them.

Same questions I ask all the others specifically:

1) Who taught you that Marry is divine/ God?

2) Who taught you to worship Mary as God?

3) What does the Catechism, the official teaching of the Catholic Church say about Mary?

4) Where does the Catechism say that Mary is Divine/ God, cite the paragraph?

5) Specifically what members of your family taught you to worship Mary?

6) What members of your family believe that Mary is divine?

7) What members of your family worship Mary as they do God?

If you can't give specific answers it never happened.

[ImaGraftedBranch]

In my five decades I have known of only the Hail Mary.
I had to search now just to see where those others you posted came from.

What is their origin, do you know?

[CynicalBear]

>>What is their origin, do you know?<<

Their origin? In paganism. They are listed on many Catholic sites. Prayers dedicating oneself "entirely" to Mary and others asking her for specific actions can be found here for instance.

My Queen, My Mother, I offer
myself entirely to thee.
And to show my devotion to thee,
I offer thee this day, my eyes,
my ears, my mouth, my heart,
my whole being without reserve.
Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard
me as thy property and possession.
Amen.

It's Mary who they dedicate themselves to. It's Mary who is their protector. For Catholics it's "move over Jesus Mary comes first" and "move over Holy Spirit Mary has taken your place". It's blasphemy pure and simple.

[Iscool]

That doesn't seem to align with the words of Jesus: "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

Luke 18:22 When Jesus heard this, He said to him, "One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Mark 10:21 Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, "One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Well Verga, have you sold your house and car and given them to the church...How about the golf clubs and fishing poles??? What about the extra pair of shoes??? Surely you are not a failed Christian Catholic are you??? You must be if you haven't sold every thing you own...

How about you quit your job like the apostles did and pick up his cross and follow him???

Col 1:24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I do my share on behalf of His body, which is the church, in filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions.

You guys have a mass get together on the weekends and whip each other into a bloody frenzy??? Thousands of you Catholics actually do...A little suffering for Jesus...

Becoming a Catholic may be tough as nails but becoming a Christian is the easiest thing in the world...

[Iscool]

After studying the theology, I became even more convinced that I made the right choice.

Pretty biased position without studying the other side of the coin...

[Iscool]

I’m not even a Catholic (though I am catholic) and I sometimes mention Mary in my prayers for others. She is, after all, a close relative to Our Lord.

Do you ever mention me??? I'm just as close to Jesus as Mary ever was...

[Iscool]

Thou shalt not have other gods besides Me
Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain Remember to keep holy the Lord’s day
Honor thy father and thy mother
Thou shalt not murder
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods

17
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

You guys are real deceivers...#17 is one commandment...Your religion made it into two so it could remove the 2nd one and still have 10 commandments...

If your religion wasn't trying to deceive it would have listed the six items in the commandment instead of just two of them which would give you fourteen commandments...Disgusting...

[Iscool]

So basically what the three of you and the rest of the anti-Catholics are saying is that either:
A) Catholics are too stupid/ addle minded to know what we are doing. Or
B) We know exactly what we are doing and are lying about it.
Those may not be your exact words, but that is what I am hearing.

While I agree those are the most likely, if you knew any scripture at all you'd know there are other options for why you worship Mary...

[Iscool]

You’ve got nothing then.

Again...Just like before...

[verga]

Pretty biased position without studying the other side of the coin...

Prot theology is very simple to understand: Que Sera Sera

[ealgeone]

>Pretty biased position without studying the other side of the coin... <

Prot theology is very simple to understand: Que Sera Sera

It was simple enough for the common man to understand it back in the day of Christ. One of the attractions of Christianity. The Bible is written so you can understand the text.