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What I Wish I’d Known About Catholics (And Why I’m Becoming One Now That I Do)
The Cordial Catholic ^ | March 19, 2015 | Albert Little

Posted on 03/20/2015 9:46:29 AM PDT by NYer

Photo Credit: Michael Caven.

Photo Credit: Michael Caven.

This Easter I become a Catholic.

It’s been a strange, unexpected journey. Something I often think about, and reflect on, is what I would’ve thought of myself, today, if I’d met me ten years ago. What if, by some miracle of space and time, the twenty year old me was able to visit the thirty year old me, today. What would the younger me think?

Becoming a Catholic is something I never could’ve imagined or envisioned.

I became a Christian at the age of about fifteen. I found an incredible local Pentecostal church, and incredible youth group, and was welcomed into a group of fantastic, devout young Christians. It’s hard to imagine all the grace I received through the friends I found and the experiences I had.

Then, at a time when so many Christians lose their faith and their identity, by the grace of God I was plugged into an incredible campus ministry in my university years. There I met lifelong friends, and my beautiful wife.

I fellowshipped, alongside my wife and our best friends, at a non-denominational church for many years. We still attend. It’s been an incredible place of grow, grace, and meeting God.

But the trajectory of my faith life—which impacts, of course, the whole of my life—changed one day when a Protestant pastor asked me what’s more important, the Bible or tradition. I didn’t have an answer, and that stumped me. And when I dug for answers, I was even more stumped, and unsatisfied. This began a long journey of searching, prayer, and unexpected discoveries.

A journey which will culminate at Easter, and continue for the rest of my life, in an entirely new direction.

What I know now, I didn’t know then. I’m becoming Catholic because of what I’ve learned—and I’ve learned it, I believe, by grace of God.

St. Francis de Sales is a favourite saint of mine. In the 16th century, as the Reformation split apart the Christian Church in Europe he wrote, preached, and worked tirelessly to explain the Catholic faith, and bring Protestants back into the fold. He was incredibly successful and something in his mission of cordially explaining his faith resonates deeply with me.

To paraphrase St. Francis de Sales to the early Protestants: If you’d known what the Catholic Church really taught you’d never have left.

In my case, if I’d known what the Catholic Church really taught, I’d have become Catholic much sooner.

Catholics Don’t Worship Mary

The Catholic Church doesn’t teach the worship of Mary. Worship (and adoration) are for God alone.

As a Protestant I thought, for a long time, that Catholics worshipped Mary alongside her son, Jesus. There are plenty of churches named in her honoured, Catholics seemed obsessed with statues of the Virgin, and the Rosary, of all things, seemed to be nothing more than vain repetition of praise for Jesus’s mother.

The reality, I’ve learned, is much different. Catholics don’t worship Mary but, because of her special role in salvation history, she is venerated. How is that different? In Catholic theology, which, remember, was the theology of the whole Christian Church for 1,500 years, we ask Mary to pray for us.

Like Mary’s request to Jesus at the wedding at Cana, Catholics believe that Mary has the ear of Jesus in a special way. This is also reflected in biblical typology—the same kind of exegesis that Jesus used to explain His role in salvation to the apostles on the road to Emmaus. In the same way I can ask my best friend—a living, breathing Christian—to pray for my intentions, the Catholic Church teaches that Mary can be asked for prayer in the same way. When Catholics say they pray, “to Mary,” they don’t mean that Mary will answer our prayers. When we “pray to” Mary, we ask for her to pray for us, to Christ.

Jesus answers all prayers. We ask Mary to pray on our behalf.

Catholics Don’t Worship the Saints

In the same way, the Catholic Church believes that holy men and women (more women than men, for the record) are, presently, in the presence of God. We call these people saints and, like the Virgin Mary, we can ask for their prayers.

As pictured in Revelation, the prayers of the saints gathered around the altar float up like incense before God. That’s why, since the very beginning of the Christian Church, there has been a strong belief in ability of the dead to pray for us—and the practice of us asking them for their prayers. This is why the earliest Christian Churches were built on sites where holy men and women were killed.

The beautiful theology of the Catholic Church says that the Church, as a body of believers, is made up of all past, present, and future Christians. We’re all one and the same and just because I pass away doesn’t mean I cease to be a part of that active body. The saints, as Christians, continue their role in the body, only now in the presence of God.

Jesus is Present in the Eucharist

For all the different Protestant branches and denominations I’ve learned that no one in Protestantism takes Jesus’s words more literally than the Catholic Church.

When Jesus said, “This is my body; this is my blood,” the Catholic Church—and the whole of Christianity for 1,500 years—takes Him at His word.

Incredibly, the Catholic theology of transubstantiation says that when the priest consecrates the elements (the bread and the wine) they become the actual body and blood of Jesus through a mysterious, miraculous process. The fact that we can’t see, touch, or taste these elements are real flesh and blood is part of the miracle.

This bold claim is backed up not only by a thousand and a half years of Church history but by solid exegesis of the gospels.

Jesus, from Bethlehem (which means “the house of bread”), who was laid into a manger (which is a feeding trough) when He was born is the actual manna from Heaven.

If I had known that I can actually receive Jesus in the Eucharist, I would’ve stormed the doors of my local Catholic Church a decade ago.

There’s Only One Mass

What strikes me as even more incredible is the Catholic theology of the act of the Eucharist itself: There’s only one.

Jesus’s sacrifice on the cross was once and for all, final, and this is something that all Protestants can get behind. The brilliant, beauty of the Mass and the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharistic elements is that it links us up with all of Christian history—past, present, and future.

Jesus only died once. When the priest prayers the Eucharistic Prayers and says, “This is my body; this is my blood,” we are, as a church community, reliving the Last Supper and Jesus’s death on the cross. We are linking up, together, with all of the other Christians who have ever, and will ever, celebrate the Eucharist. And we’re linking up with the saints, angels, the Virgin Mary, and God Himself in Heaven as we see this same celebration taking place in Revelation.

As a Catholic, then, when I go to Mass I am experiencing something universal: Jesus’s death re-presented before my eyes.

The Priest Acts as Jesus

In a similar way, I never understood the importance of the priest in Catholic theology. As a young Protestant the priest, like Mary and the saints, stood in the way of my personal relationship with Jesus. But I had it all wrong.

The priest, as understood by Catholic theology, acts as Christ. The priest is a stand-in, if you will.

In the Mass, the priests acts in the place of Jesus, as he consecrates the bread and the wine. In the blessing of people, in Baptism, in prayer, and in the healing of the sick the priest, based on the authority that Jesus gives His apostles in the New Testament, is acting in His place. Where Jesus is not tangibly, physically with us, the priest is here in His place.

In confession, the priest, based on the direct charge from Jesus, “whoever’s sins you forgive they are forgiven,” represents Christ in forgiving our sins for us.

We don’t have to imagine God among us: there He is.

God Gave Us a Real, Tangible Church

Perhaps the greatest, most incredible thing I’ve learned, and wish that I knew a long, long time ago, is that Jesus left us with a real, tangible Church.

As a Protestant, I thought of the Church as a non-physical, spiritual union of Christians all over the world. But this isn’t how Jesus meant it, I’m convinced. Because this isn’t the Church as conceived by the apostles, the fathers of the Church (who were taught by the apostles), and all Christians for more than fifteen hundred years.

As I become Catholic perhaps the greatest gift I’m to receive is union with a real, tangible Church founded by Christ.

A Church with bishops and priests who can trace their authority, historically, all the way back to the apostles. Authority that we see manifest in the New Testament as the ability to forgive sins, drive out demons, and define an understanding of doctrine. These authoritative charges, according to the Catholic Church, remain with today’s bishops and priests through Apostolic Succession.

That’s why when the priest says, “You’re forgiven,” he means it. Because Christ said he’d have that power.

Rather than having to “feel” or “know” it on our own, God gave us the beauty and the blessing of a physical, tangible Church to be His hands and feet on earth. I don’t need to pray and ask for God to give me a sense of His grace, although I certainly could, and do. But in the Eucharist, in confession, and in the knowledge that God gave us the Church, we can be certain of His grace. This, in my experience, has been the most powerful aspect of the Catholic Church—and something I wish I knew years ago.

The most beautiful gift that Jesus gave us, beyond His sacrificial offering, was the establishment of a Church to proclaim, celebrate, and safeguard truth.

There’s a lot—a lot!—I wish I’d known about the Catholic Church a long time ago. I would’ve become a Catholic. And, of course, now that I know I can’t help but do anything else. At Easter I’ll turn in a new direction, take a new path, but I suppose, really, it’s the path I’ve always been on: A slow road to Rome. But I’m finally getting there. My new orientation, then, will be to continue to explain and champion this incredible faith I’ve found. And to be a cordial Catholic.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; cordialcatholic; protestantbashing; willconvertforfood
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To: ADSUM

Jesus’s Catholic Church? The Catholic Church and all of its doctrines were not started by Yeshua. Man started the Catholic Church.

All Christians need to understand our Jewish Roots and to read the Bible that God provided to us which is his Word.


101 posted on 03/20/2015 9:32:13 PM PDT by JohnT416
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To: dartuser
Definition of "venerate" from Merriam-Webster online: "to feel or show deep respect for (someone or something that is considered great, holy, etc.)".

Doesn't sound like "worship" or "adore" to me.

102 posted on 03/20/2015 9:57:20 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Aurorales; metmom; boatbums
I was raised Catholic. Catholics worship Mary. Pray to Mary. Ask Mary for everything under the sun.

Then you will have no trouble answering the questions ion post #93. I will repost them.

Same questions I ask all the others specifically:

1) Who taught you that Marry is divine/ God?

2) Who taught you to worship Mary as God?

3) What does the Catechism, the official teaching of the Catholic Church say about Mary?

4) Where does the Catechism say that Mary is Divine/ God, cite the paragraph?

5) Specifically what members of your family taught you to worship Mary?

6) What members of your family believe that Mary is divine?

7) What members of your family worship Mary as they do God?

If you can't give specific answers it never happened.

103 posted on 03/21/2015 4:31:10 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: Aurorales; Old Yeller
I was raised Catholic. Catholics worship Mary. Pray to Mary. Ask Mary for everything under the sun.

Ad Jesum per Mariam

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the miraculous events that took place in Mexico in the 16th century. Missionaries who first came to Mexico with the conquistadors had little success in the beginning. After nearly a generation, only a few hundred Native Mexicans had converted to the Christian faith. Whether they simply did not understand what the missionaries had to offer or whether they resented these people who made them slaves, Christianity was not popular among the native people.

Then in 1531 miracles began to happen. Jesus' own mother appeared to humble Juan Diego. The signs -- of the roses, of the uncle miraculously cured of a deadly illness, and especially of her beautiful image on Juan's mantle -- convinced the people there was something to be considered in Christianity. Within a short time, six million Native Mexicans had themselves baptized as Christians.

The first lesson is that God has chosen Mary to lead us to Jesus. No matter what critics may say of the devotion of Mexicans (and Mexican descendants) to Our Lady of Guadalupe, they owe their Christianity to her influence. If it were not for her, they would not know her son, and so they are eternally grateful. The second lesson we take from Mary herself. Mary appeared to Juan Diego not as a European madonna but as a beautiful Aztec princess speaking to him in his own Aztec language. If we want to help someone appreciate the gospel we bring, we must appreciate the culture and the mentality in which they live their lives. By understanding them, we can help them to understand and know Christ.

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104 posted on 03/21/2015 5:33:48 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

Thanks for the post.

I know there is a better picture of Our Lady of Guadalupe out there. Could you please post that here instead of this Americanized one?

TIA

P.S. My image posting skills are lacking.


105 posted on 03/21/2015 5:56:15 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
>>You spend an awful lot of time on here in a very negative way.<<<

Didn't like that I showed your statement to be false ey? Come in here making false claim and expect to be shown the truth as we are told in scripture to do.

106 posted on 03/21/2015 6:14:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: JohnT416

Jesus’s Catholic Church.

Yes Jesus founded the Catholic Church with Peter and the Apostles and told them to Go forth and Baptize all nations.

Are you a denier that the Catholic Church has followed God’s Word and has spread the Faith to all nations.


107 posted on 03/21/2015 6:17:01 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM; JohnT416
>>Are you a denier that the Catholic Church has followed God’s Word and has spread the Faith to all nations.<<

What the Catholic Church has spread is NOT the faith that Christ instituted. It' a corrupted combination of paganism and apostasy.

108 posted on 03/21/2015 6:25:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Aurorales

You nailed it. A brief search of prayers to Mary shows that well enough.


109 posted on 03/21/2015 7:12:42 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Then you will have no trouble answering the questions ion post #93. I will repost them.

Same questions I ask all the others specifically:

1) Who taught you that Marry is divine/ God?

2) Who taught you to worship Mary as God?

3) What does the Catechism, the official teaching of the Catholic Church say about Mary?

4) Where does the Catechism say that Mary is Divine/ God, cite the paragraph?

5) Specifically what members of your family taught you to worship Mary?

6) What members of your family believe that Mary is divine?

7) What members of your family worship Mary as they do God?

If you can't give specific answers it never happened.

110 posted on 03/21/2015 7:26:47 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: CynicalBear

In my five decades I have known of only the Hail Mary.
I had to search now just to see where those others you posted came from.

What is their origin, do you know?


111 posted on 03/21/2015 8:51:51 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (If you haven't figured it out, there is a great falling away...happening before your eyes.)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
>>What is their origin, do you know?<<

Their origin? In paganism. They are listed on many Catholic sites. Prayers dedicating oneself "entirely" to Mary and others asking her for specific actions can be found here for instance.

My Queen, My Mother, I offer
myself entirely to thee.
And to show my devotion to thee,
I offer thee this day, my eyes,
my ears, my mouth, my heart,
my whole being without reserve.
Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard
me as thy property and possession.
Amen.

It's Mary who they dedicate themselves to. It's Mary who is their protector. For Catholics it's "move over Jesus Mary comes first" and "move over Holy Spirit Mary has taken your place". It's blasphemy pure and simple.

112 posted on 03/21/2015 9:08:52 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: verga; CommerceComet
That doesn't seem to align with the words of Jesus: "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

Luke 18:22 When Jesus heard this, He said to him, "One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Mark 10:21 Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, "One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Well Verga, have you sold your house and car and given them to the church...How about the golf clubs and fishing poles??? What about the extra pair of shoes??? Surely you are not a failed Christian Catholic are you??? You must be if you haven't sold every thing you own...

How about you quit your job like the apostles did and pick up his cross and follow him???

Col 1:24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I do my share on behalf of His body, which is the church, in filling up what is lacking in Christ's afflictions.

You guys have a mass get together on the weekends and whip each other into a bloody frenzy??? Thousands of you Catholics actually do...A little suffering for Jesus...

Becoming a Catholic may be tough as nails but becoming a Christian is the easiest thing in the world...

113 posted on 03/21/2015 9:15:35 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: 353FMG
After studying the theology, I became even more convinced that I made the right choice.

Pretty biased position without studying the other side of the coin...

114 posted on 03/21/2015 9:17:08 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: MHGinTN
I’m not even a Catholic (though I am catholic) and I sometimes mention Mary in my prayers for others. She is, after all, a close relative to Our Lord.

Do you ever mention me??? I'm just as close to Jesus as Mary ever was...

115 posted on 03/21/2015 9:20:16 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: NYer
Thou shalt not have other gods besides Me
Thou shalt not take the Name of the Lord thy God in vain Remember to keep holy the Lord’s day
Honor thy father and thy mother
Thou shalt not murder
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods

17
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

You guys are real deceivers...#17 is one commandment...Your religion made it into two so it could remove the 2nd one and still have 10 commandments...

If your religion wasn't trying to deceive it would have listed the six items in the commandment instead of just two of them which would give you fourteen commandments...Disgusting...

116 posted on 03/21/2015 9:33:50 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: verga; ealgeone; CynicalBear; dartuser
So basically what the three of you and the rest of the anti-Catholics are saying is that either:
A) Catholics are too stupid/ addle minded to know what we are doing. Or
B) We know exactly what we are doing and are lying about it.
Those may not be your exact words, but that is what I am hearing.

While I agree those are the most likely, if you knew any scripture at all you'd know there are other options for why you worship Mary...

117 posted on 03/21/2015 9:41:08 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: ealgeone; verga
You’ve got nothing then.

Again...Just like before...

118 posted on 03/21/2015 9:45:38 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool; 353FMG
Pretty biased position without studying the other side of the coin...

Prot theology is very simple to understand: Que Sera Sera

119 posted on 03/21/2015 10:00:20 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: verga
>Pretty biased position without studying the other side of the coin... <

Prot theology is very simple to understand: Que Sera Sera

It was simple enough for the common man to understand it back in the day of Christ. One of the attractions of Christianity. The Bible is written so you can understand the text.

120 posted on 03/21/2015 10:37:39 AM PDT by ealgeone
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