Posted on 03/24/2015 3:57:42 PM PDT by NYer
We’re baaaaaaaaaad.
Yes. The bible says in Romans 8: “16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
The Spirit deals with us, and the inner us knows it.
Also, Jesus said in Mt 7: “16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?”
He reigned with God..and talk about your guaranteed place in heaven and he fell..so OSAS talk is interesting. Yet satan was a being created by God for worship and we were created to love Him.
Luckily Jesus came to save sinners of whom I am chief.
The word used there is sheol, in Hebrew reference to the grave. More modern translations render this as the depths. The KJV committee took it upon itself to use the more poetic, if less accurate, hell.
“Luckily” ha! By divine design.
We are created to love a being that is fickle from the word go?
A devil’s point of view would be that it would not matter what you did, you could save yourself.
NOT, that God has the sovereign power to lock your salvation in.
Work out your salvation with fear and trembling
The fear and trembling part our society lacks and bears much reflection. Once save always saved tickles the ears and is not the whole truth.
It’s not the whole STORY. It misunderstands what it means to be a child of God. As such, you will WANT to “work out your salvation” in the sense of bringing its effects forth through what you did. And it grows, it snowballs, until perfection in heaven.
A pastor I knew once said that every time he preached on the subject the congregation would get nauseated, because the verb used there is the same word that means to vomit. But you know what it’s like when you got something bad that makes you want to “work it out.” You are in the throne room until you do. In the case of God, you get something good instead.
It is finished!
Well almost.
Indeed. One might even go so far as to call it a wickerthread.
wickerly wicked?
http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-lose-salvation.html
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A Christian cannot lose salvation. Most, if not all, of what the Bible says happens to us when we receive Christ would be invalidated if salvation could be lost. Salvation is the gift of God, and Gods gifts are irrevocable (Romans 11:29). A Christian cannot be un-newly created. The redeemed cannot be unpurchased. Eternal life cannot be temporary. God cannot renege on His Word. Scripture says that God cannot lie (Titus 1:2).
Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a Christian has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. By their fruit you will recognize them (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God (Romans 7:4).
Nothing can separate a child of God from the Fathers love (Romans 8:3839). Nothing can remove a Christian from Gods hand (John 10:2829). God guarantees eternal life and maintains the salvation He has given us. The Good Shepherd searches for the lost sheep, and, when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home (Luke 15:56). The lamb is found, and the Shepherd gladly bears the burden; our Lord takes full responsibility for bringing the lost one safely home.
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BFL
Not finished until the committee comes that tells you whether or not you are on the bus.
I think I saw some of this in ‘73 or ‘74, because of Britt Eckland. If I’m remembering the right movie, gave me the heebie-jeebies and was good for several nights’ wildest dreams.
So "walking away" is what cause the Holy Spirit to 'vacate the premises?'
Where is de-regeneration taught in the Bible?
37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father�s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
No it is not.
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