Posted on 03/25/2015 10:46:15 PM PDT by Steelfish
“God never said He would be a God to Ishmael.”
He did to Abraham. Muslims say they worship the God of Abraham.
“He said He would be a God to Isaac.”
And Abraham before him. Muslims say they worship the God of Abraham.
“serve the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. I do not serve the same god as the Muslims.”
So the God of Abraham is not the God of Abraham - that’s what you’re saying.
“Protestants have no business telling Catholics what is God Word.”
I’m sure that you’d rather have us leave you comfortable in your ignorance, but God doesn’t give us that option. He didn’t ask our assent as to whether we want to share the Gospel, or reprove other Christians when they err, He commanded those things.
“I know Jews do.. and Christians do... But Mohammedans DO NOT.”
Muslims say they do. It seems your argument is with them.
“these profess to hold the faith of Abraham”
See that word “profess”?
Yeah.
“Projection is an ugly thing.”
And Protestant anti-Catholics do something similar every time they falsely claim we worship Mary. Learn from that.
“say”
“I see”
Finally.
“You can’t include Jews in the mix...”
I did. It’s done.
“A church that cant differentiate between the God of scripture and the god that Muslims serve is surely NOT the church that Christ instituted.”
A “Christian” who can’t see and understand the word “profess” is doomed to post anti-Catholic posts on FR showing his or her ignorance.
“Show me the Scripture then.”
First, show me the scripture that says all truths are in scripture. If you fail at that (which is guaranteed) then you’ll know why not all truths are in scripture.
In the meantime:
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/charts/Mary%20the%20Ark%20of%20the%20New%20Covenant.htm
http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/mary-the-ark-of-the-new-covenant
http://www.stpeterslist.com/2022/4-biblical-reasons-mary-is-the-new-ark-of-the-covenant/
http://www.theorthodoxfaith.com/mary-as-the-new-ark-of-the-covenant/
http://www.salvationhistory.com/studies/lesson/queen_the_ark_of_the_new_covenant
This illustrates the problem....roman catholicism has taken this adjective and made it into a title.
It is just one of many examples where roman catholicism has built up Mary to something that she's not accorded in the Word.
Far be it from me to stop you from believing in the same god as the Muslims.
Right, you’ve got no scriptural support then, which means, as I said before, you’re just spinning fables told by men.
Redefining blessed: To receive a blessing from the Lord. It is a blessing to find a good wife or to be able to share the gospel. It is a blessing to have a nice day at word or to have your kids do something good that makes you proud. It would be quite a blessing to be healed by the apostle Paul. It would be quite a blessing to actually have seen and heard an apostle teach. What a blessing it would be to have actually seen the Lord.
To the Catholic church to be blessed is to: Be immaculately conceived, co redeemer, co mediator, dispenser of all graces, received bodily in heaven, ever virgin, possessor of 1000 names, etc etc etc.
So that makes it hard to even agree on a simple point. Catholics redefine and create language that would be infinitely better left in God's words as in the bible.
Having issues refuting the argument? Nice tactic, but pretty lame. And transparent.
It's YOUR church/cult that agrees with THEM. So... my argument is with Roman Catholicism which you are trying to defend.
So... do you agree with the Catechism of the Catholic Church? It teaches that the god worshipped by Muslims is the same as that worshipped by Catholics. That;s my question to YOU.
C'mon. Just try to answer it... it's simple, really -- either you agree with the CCC or you don't! Is it THAT hard to type either "yes" or "no" ?
Hoss
Yeah.
Take a gander at this:
"841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
Yeah. Yeah.
So? Do you agree? Do you, as a Roman Catholic, along with the Muslims adore the "one, merciful God"?
You can "profess" all you want - I'm asking about 'acknowledging' and 'adoring' -- do you AGREE with ROME that teaches that Catholics and Muslims adore the same God?
Can't you answer simply "yes" or "no"?
Hoss
But Roman Catholics DO worship Mary! This thread is absolutely gravid with examples!
I'm no projecting anything; all I'm doing is helping to point out the hypocrisy and apostasy of Roman Catholicism's cult.
And projecting is still an ugly thing.
Hoss
P.S. -- do you agree with the CCC 841 or not? It's easy: yes or no!
How true -- and that is EXACTLY the predicament in which the Roman Catholic Church finds itself this very day. A Christian who cant see and understand the word profess is doomed to post anti-Catholic posts on FR showing his or her ignorance.
Following your lead on this one. I'm still waiting to see if you 'acknowledge' and 'adore' the same "God" as the Muslims do since that is what is taught in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Hoss
Far be it from me to stop you from believing in the same God of Abraham Muslims, Jews and Christians profess belief in.
“Right, youve got no scriptural support then, which means, as I said before, youre just spinning fables told by men.”
And in regard to you showing me the scripture that says all truths are in scripture I can say the same thing to you. Are you familiar with the word “hypocrite”?
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