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Tolerance is over
WDTPRS ^ | March 31, 2015 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 03/31/2015 9:18:37 PM PDT by NYer

cultural revolution 02The world is going nuts. I have often felt a bit like Cassandra, but … Cassandra was right.

Here is another take.

From the pen of John Zmirak at The Stream with my emphases and comments:

The expected Supreme Court decision imposing on 50 states an entirely newunderstanding of marriage, and the frenzy of hatred that gay activists have stoked against Indiana for trying to shelter religious believers from crippling lawsuits should wake us to a cold and stark reality: The age of tolerance in America is vanishing before your eyes. The question is how Christians and other people of faith and good will are going to respond.

Let’s break this down in stark and simple terms: Not only were gay activists willing to overturn an act of Congress (the Defense of Marriage Act) on spurious grounds; they also wish to force their libertine idea of marriage onto voters in each of the 50 states, voiding dozens of laws on an issue that has always rested with the states. [So, it is not just an issue of sodomy.  This is a constitutional issue.]

Not satisfied with that, these activists want the full force of the regulatory state to compel every single American to affirm and accept the delusion of same-sex “marriage,” under the same civil and criminal penalties that now forbid discrimination by race. [BUT… the “gay” thing is nothing like the civil rights issues of the 60’s.  Comparing the “gay” thing and race is like comparing apples and carrots.] A famous case was a 70-year-old Christian florist who declined to decorate a gay wedding, and was crushed by a successful lawsuit and the full force of the ACLU’s legal team. She was one of the Brave New Law’s first victims. She will be far from the last.  [That’s for sure.]

These activists use the power of city governments (as in San Francisco) to try to intimidate isolated Catholic schools into abandoning Christian teaching on sexual ethics. Such zealots corrupt the academic authorities who grant accreditation in order to financially cripple schools such as Gordon College that maintain Christian “morals” clauses as part of their hiring policies.

cultural revolution 04Those who defend the reality of marriage, including even unbelievers who defend freedom of religion and association, are not simply wrong — they are “bigots” and “haters” who deserve to be fined, boycotted and bankrupted; [Crucifige! Crucifige eum!] to lose their jobs like Brendan Eich, the ex-CEO of Mozilla, and face financial ruin — as Elton John hopes to break Dolce & Gabbana, and [follow the trajectory] as Apple CEO Tim Cook hopes to break the entire State of Indiana. Politicians are joining in, with the Connecticut governor, and Seattle and San Francisco mayors, banning official travel to Indiana.  [It goes from bakers and florists, to schools to entire states.  What’s next?]

As Austin Ruse points out, states such as Indiana are not giving Christians a pass to broadly discriminate against gays. Such religious freedom laws “deal with the very narrow question of whether vendors can be forced by the state to participate in religious ceremonies that violate their own religious consciences.

Given the fanatical response to a modest bill virtually identical to a federal law upheld by courts and bills on the books in twenty other states, [QUAERITUR…] how long before the call comes out for the “bigots” to be imprisoned? The First Amendment won’t protect us, if leaders like Hillary Clinton have their way; in public statements she followed President Obama in replacing the Constitution’s “free exercise” with “freedom of worship.”

The implicit message shouldn’t be missed: Say what you want in church for an hour every Sunday, but the rest of the week belongs to us.Your homophobic beliefs deserve no more protection than the religious use of peyote.

Scary.

Get your heads into that mental place where you will be able to face the persecution that is coming.  You will be vilified, in especially venomous ways, even within the Church by catholics seeking to twist the Church into an instrument of social re-engineering.

cultural revolution 03


TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: gaystapo; homosexual; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; lgbt; liberalagenda; marriage; sodomandgomorrah; ssm; tyranny
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1 posted on 03/31/2015 9:18:37 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...
Interesting comments posted on Fr. Z's blog.

Ping!

2 posted on 03/31/2015 9:19:22 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

The left has never tolerated anyone against them.

They feel totally justified and a duty to be intolerant of those they deem intolerant.


3 posted on 03/31/2015 9:22:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NYer

Liberals scolded us on the subject of being tolerant not to help make us better people, but to give themselves more elbow room to alter society until liberals were sufficiently insinuated into positions of power. Now liberals can be intolerant towards those who are not liberal and it doesn’t matter.

The same could be said for free speech or allowing divergent opinions. With liberals, it was never about improving society. It was always about giving liberalism sufficient power so as to become entrenched.


4 posted on 03/31/2015 9:23:50 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: NYer

It isn’t hard to see where the gulags and gas chambers came from. You could be Cwissy Mathews would be their biggest cheerleaders.

Pray America is waking


5 posted on 03/31/2015 9:29:48 PM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: theBuckwheat

Marriage is a covenant and not a contract. It was instituted by God and not by man. As an institution, it is not in the realm of government, because government cannot enter into a covenant nor can government regulate it.

Because government has grown hostile to marriage as God defines it, in order to protect that sacred institution, we must now remove the power to regulate and define marriage from government. Then people can conduct their private affairs as they see fit, and they cannot get government to impose their private relationships on people who reject them.

If we must have separation of Church and State, we must also separate functions of the Church from functions of the State. We now should see that was a mistake to get the State involved in marriage. Let us quickly repair this error by repealing all state power regarding marriage.


6 posted on 03/31/2015 9:30:03 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Secret Agent Man

The left has never tolerated anyone against them.

They feel totally justified and a duty to be intolerant of those they deem intolerant.


Progressive = Repressive


7 posted on 03/31/2015 9:32:26 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Progressive = Repressive

I call them Pro-Regresives


8 posted on 03/31/2015 9:34:46 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: theBuckwheat

[ Marriage is a covenant and not a contract. It was instituted by God and not by man. As an institution, it is not in the realm of government, because government cannot enter into a covenant nor can government regulate it.

Because government has grown hostile to marriage as God defines it, in order to protect that sacred institution, we must now remove the power to regulate and define marriage from government. Then people can conduct their private affairs as they see fit, and they cannot get government to impose their private relationships on people who reject them.

If we must have separation of Church and State, we must also separate functions of the Church from functions of the State. We now should see that was a mistake to get the State involved in marriage. Let us quickly repair this error by repealing all state power regarding marriage. ]

Here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/26/opinion/26coontz.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

“The American colonies officially required marriages to be registered, but until the mid-19th century, state supreme courts routinely ruled that public cohabitation was sufficient evidence of a valid marriage. By the later part of that century, however, the United States began to nullify common-law marriages and exert more control over who was allowed to marry.

By the 1920s, 38 states prohibited whites from marrying blacks, “mulattos,” Japanese, Chinese, Indians, “Mongolians,” “Malays” or Filipinos. Twelve states would not issue a marriage license if one partner was a drunk, an addict or a “mental defect.” Eighteen states set barriers to remarriage after divorce. “

It all started in the “Progressive Era”...


9 posted on 03/31/2015 9:39:01 PM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: NYer

America is indeed entering into a new phase. A new cultural phase of darkness and totalitarianism. We are seeing it form before our very eyes. The country is becoming disconnected from everything it once was and once represented.

Sometimes these things aren’t all that noticeable to people at ground floor, and at the time they are happening. You have to consciously incorporate a wider historical and cultural net to truly grasp the gravity of it all. We’re likely far closer to that supposedly distant collapse/breakup than any of us really imagine.


10 posted on 03/31/2015 9:39:01 PM PDT by greene66
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To: theBuckwheat

Your comment is spot on.


11 posted on 03/31/2015 9:40:05 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: KC_Lion

Ping.


12 posted on 03/31/2015 9:40:36 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: NYer

We laugh at Liberals. They would Imprison us if they could.


13 posted on 03/31/2015 9:41:49 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Advertising Space Available here.)
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To: theBuckwheat

You would be right, if marriage were only a spiritual covenant. But it’s not. It’s more than that. It’s the fundamental building block of of any decent society, of civil government, of economy, and the only guarantee of our physical posterity.

To say that we don’t want the civil institution of marriage any more is to say that we no longer want civil government.


14 posted on 03/31/2015 9:46:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: theBuckwheat

Some of us tried to warn you. But you wouldn’t listen.

No, we were “libertines” for saying that government should have no role in marriage. “Once you let government codify in law what is or isnt marriage you’re at the mercy of whatever mob manages to get 51% of the vote.” You hooted us down.

Well, reap what you’ve sown.

And that sound? It’s folks like me laughing at your folly.

Enjoy,

L


15 posted on 03/31/2015 9:46:33 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Thanks LIBs for ruining Freedom. You deserve much.


16 posted on 03/31/2015 9:48:10 PM PDT by ogen hal (First Amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: GraceG

Progressive = Repressive

I call them Pro-Regresives


That works, too. They are a nasty bunch.


17 posted on 03/31/2015 9:50:31 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: greene66

America is indeed entering into a new phase. A new cultural phase of darkness and totalitarianism. We are seeing it form before our very eyes. The country is becoming disconnected from everything it once was and once represented.


Very true. and it’s happening every day.

America is suffering a death by a thousand cuts.


18 posted on 03/31/2015 10:01:25 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: theBuckwheat
In the USSR, the church is separated from the state, and the school from the church.
That phrase comes from the USSR’s constitution.
19 posted on 03/31/2015 10:13:51 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: laplata; GraceG; NYer
Progressive = Repressive

It's worse than that. Liberals are obstinate oppositional defiants who will murder you if you do not totally agree with them. They will not even take a spmple "OK" for an answer to their activity as liars, sodomites, or lesbians. You must also actively enable them persistently and pervasively or they will kill you as soon as they are permitted.

20 posted on 03/31/2015 10:14:52 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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