[Mrs. Don-o]

This is getting irrational. (I didn't say "YOU" are getting irrational... ) I am saying we are again talking right past each other without comprehension.

Do you believe in Eternal Security?

[CynicalBear]

>>I am saying we are again talking right past each other without comprehension.<<

Unfortunately that will always be the case with faithful Catholics and non Catholics. The Catholic Church has assigned different meanings to words. Just a few examples would be things like "the virgin Mary", "church", and "saints". As long as a Catholic looks to the magisterium for belief system rather than scripture communication is going to be difficult