Posted on 05/01/2015 2:36:22 PM PDT by NYer
Galatians 2:11
When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.
For being Cowardly and Wrong?
1 Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, taking Titus along with me. 2 I went up in response to a revelation. Then I laid before them (though only in a private meeting with the acknowledged leaders) the gospel that I proclaim among the Gentiles, in order to make sure that I was not running, or had not run, in vain. 3 But even Titus, who was with me, was not compelled to be circumcised, though he was a Greek. 4 But because of false believers[a] secretly brought in, who slipped in to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus, so that they might enslave us— 5 we did not submit to them even for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might always remain with you. 6 And from those who were supposed to be acknowledged leaders (what they actually were makes no difference to me; God shows no partiality)—those leaders contributed nothing to me. 7 On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel for the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel for the circumcised 8 (for he who worked through Peter making him an apostle to the circumcised also worked through me in sending me to the Gentiles), 9 and when James and Cephas and John, who were acknowledged pillars, recognized the grace that had been given to me, they gave to Barnabas and me the right hand of fellowship, agreeing that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10 They asked only one thing, that we remember the poor, which was actually what I was[b] eager to do.
11 But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood self-condemned; 12 for until certain people came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But after they came, he drew back and kept himself separate for fear of the circumcision faction. 13 And the other Jews joined him in this hypocrisy, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. 14 But when I saw that they were not acting consistently with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?”[c]
15 We ourselves are Jews by birth and not Gentile sinners; 16 yet we know that a person is justified[d] not by the works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ.[e] And we have come to believe in Christ Jesus, so that we might be justified by faith in Christ,[f] and not by doing the works of the law, because no one will be justified by the works of the law. 17 But if, in our effort to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have been found to be sinners, is Christ then a servant of sin? Certainly not! 18 But if I build up again the very things that I once tore down, then I demonstrate that I am a transgressor. 19 For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ; 20 and it is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God,[g] who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not nullify the grace of God; for if justification[h] comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing.
Without the "papacy" you're saying Christianity would have never happened??????
Without the Papacy there would be no Christian religion to teach believe in Jesus.
Wonder what Paul would have to say about catholics leading people astray with the false deification of Mary?
Is this sarcasm or are you serious?
They seen to hink the Bible is just another book. It is no wonder they are confused.
Scripture indicates that James was the ‘leader’ of the band of believers in Jerusalem. Paul tells us that Peter was the Apostle to the Jews and he, Paul, was the Apostle to the gentiles.
Well, as usual, Elsie beat me to it! He types and reads a lot faster than me, obviously. Must be that goat cheese and goat’s milk.
I think the first thing Paul would say, after he came to, would be found in Gal. 1:6-10 (”I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel...”). Actually, I think the RCC could be patterned after the Galatians, in a bizarre world where the Galatians finally get it and repent, and the RCC starts working overtime, writing those new traditions and doctrines and letters from “early church fathers”. I don’t think that’s so bizarre after all, I think that may be what happened.
Yes, I think that is correct. But there is nothing to indicate Peter was “Pope” to the other Apostles. They each had their roles and were all led by the Holy Spirit and were therefore working in unison. Nobody clamored to be “top dog” or wore silken robes, sat on a throne or wore an ostentatious hat. They went about doing the Lords work.
If that is what they do, then they are vey wrong.
:: Paul chastised Peter to his face because Peter’s behavior was cowardly and wrong. He was succumbing to he desire to be popular and approved by the Judaizers. ::
So, I assume ^you^ (like Paul) can get an audience with “Il Papa” to tell him he MUST recant his public statements regarding certain ^political touchstones^ (that would be today’s definition of a “judaizer”) since such statements are seen as dogma and certainly misleading to the Faithful?
Things such as such as US immigration policy, the US DoMA and so-called homosexual love? Certainly just a small sample.
Might I inquire as to why the CoC has not done that very same thing?
"Tell me about the vote on that. Show me in the Bible where it states the Apostles were not equal. One had greater powers than the others."
Good questions. Let's look at Scripture about that.
As you no doubt know, Paul said it is God who makes these special appointments:
1 Cor. 12:28-29
And God has appointed in the church,
first apostles,
second prophets,
third teachers,
then miracles,
then gifts of healings,
helpers,
administrators,
various kinds of tongues.
All are not apostles, are they?
All are not prophets, are they?
All are not teachers, are they?
All are not workers of miracles, are they?
"Hoo boy! Since when was he [Peter]the leader? Tell me about the vote on that."
Let's look to Scripture for that answer, as well.
There was no vote (where is it written that the Church is to be a democracy?): it was an appointment.
Peter’s foundational position was taught at the very beginning of his relationship with Christ. At their first meeting, Christ told Simon that his name would thereafter be Peter, Kephas/Cephas ("Rock" )(John 1:42). It wasn't just a casual nickname, like Boanerges; he was actually called Kephas/Cephas after that point.
This constitutes a pattern. And a pattern that doesn't fit anybody but Peter.
It sure does. And Jesus Himself said "He who is first shall be last". I see nothing definitive about superiority over the other Apostles. Nothing. nada. Does your faith require Peter to be "special" above the other Apostles? Does it require Mary to be sinless (even though that goes contrary to Scripture)? Does your faith require the RCC to be the One True Church? If the answer to all of these is yes, then the RCC has replaced God in your life because I guarantee you that none of the Apostles taught/believed any of that.
Hat tip to daniel
"Peter" mentioned by that name 162 times in all of the New Testament, sometimes together as "Simon Peter," and separately as "Cephas" 6 times, and separately as Simon 17 times at most, for a total of 185. In addition, a cursory count finds other apostles are mentioned by name about 80 times.
Who was the first disciple of Christ?
Were does it state that explicitly? Chapter and verse or retract.
What Augustine was saying is that the church is built ON that confession of faith ..
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