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To: StormPrepper
>>Because Noah chose to follow God. God didn't force Him.<<

Why change the subject which was whether God made His word available to all generations. Noah had God's word available to him.

>>Amos is prophesying after the death of Jesus that the word of the Lord would be found on the earth.<<

Who told you that? God was talking to the Israelites. You can't take verses out of context. You ignored the previous verses especially verse 2.

Amos 8:2 “What do you see, Amos?” he asked. “A basket of ripe fruit,” I answered. Then the Lord said to me, “The time is ripe for my people Israel; I will spare them no longer.

That doesn't include the New Testament ekklesia of Christ. God's word has been available to the ekklesia in ALL generations.

>>The point is, God didn't intervene on their behalf.<<

NO, the point is "was God's word available to them". And that answer to that is YES it was.

>>That by itself invalidates your belief in a "believe only" doctrine.<<

No, it doesn't. Do you totally not understand the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and it's affects?

>>Again, irony. There are no mean people in heaven<<

Matthew 23:33 "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?

In your estimation was Jesus being mean?

711 posted on 05/18/2015 1:06:44 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
"Why change the subject which was whether God made His word available to all generations. Noah had God's word available to him."

That's not changing the subject. You claimed that God's word is available to all people at all times. My point is that man can reject that word and make it unavailable by their actions to not only themselves but future generations.

"Who told you that? God was talking to the Israelites. You can't take verses out of context."

All prophets have one task that is universal among them all; testify of the coming Messiah. Either His first or second coming. When ever the prophet says "only son" he's referring to Jesus.

Amos is seeing a vision of the destruction of Israel. And the death of Christ. The mourning of an only son and the sun going down at noon day is reference to the crucifixion.

12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.

In verse 12, Amos makes it clear that the word of God (according to God's standard) is not to be found. And remember "Israel" also refers to the people of God not just the Jews.

But there have always been the writings of the prophets, but not living prophets. And that's the famine he's referring to.

By your standard, Amos 8 could never have been fulfilled. Because by your standard, the word of God is only the scriptures. But the world has never been with out them ever.

"No, it doesn't. Do you totally not understand the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and it's affects?"

I know you have confuse the influence of the Holy Ghost that testifies of truth to the whole world and the Gift of Holy Ghost which is given by the laying on of hands by those authorized by God to give it.

The Holy Ghost gives a good feeling. What you don't realize is that it's only the tip of the iceberg of what God has provided.

The problem is that people link that feeling they get when the Holy Ghost testifies of Jesus, with all their false doctrines and wrong conclusions. Then they feel validated not realizing they are actually on the wrong path.

In your estimation was Jesus being mean?

Don't try to draw a moral equivalence between your insults and the Lord's righteous judgement. Last I checked, it was His right to judge all mankind.

I noticed you skipped the example of Moses so I'll restate it in case you missed it.

The word of God wasn't available to the Israelites until Moses visited with God and brought the word to the people. Which totally invalidates your whole point. The word of God was not on the earth until God raised up Moses and gave the word to Moses to give to the people.

So it wasn't available in all generations like you said.
712 posted on 05/18/2015 2:14:15 PM PDT by StormPrepper
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