Posted on 06/09/2015 3:51:50 PM PDT by stockpirate
Very funny and shalom, golux! Are you truly Jewish? What do you think about Daniel 9, Isaiah 52-53, Zechariah 12, and Psalms 22? These are all Messianic scriptures that reveal the Jewish Messiah?
That could work out well for them.
Not true. The Apostle Paul taught the rapture (1 Thess 4, 2 Thess 2) and hoped for it as his blessed hope (Titus 2). Jesus taught of the rapture in Matthew 24 and Luke 21 and Luke 17.
tell me where I’m wrong? David murdered the woman’s husband that he wanted to sleep with. He is known as a man after God’s own heart. Saul murdered Christians THEN was sought out by God. Jacob sinned and rebeled and still was chosen by God. I could truly go on and on.
Satan was kicked out long ago. He rules this earth.
There will be those who refuse the mark and most will probably be murdered by those who follow the beast, aka. the antichrist, the tribulation saints will do great exploits for God and Christ Jesus during their time; they are the tribulation saints who will die rather than yield to the beast. It will be a 7 year period of hell on the earth and men will learn at last that the wrath of God abides on all who do not believe on Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, athiests and false religion peoples alike. All have sinned, all have come short of the glory of God.
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That is not what the book of revelations says. Only his spirit is allowed to roam the earth at present.
So what should anyone do?
You are right, but most Christians in America have no ideal about the rest of the world. As for me I will be telling my Jewish brothers about Yeshua at the same time I’m loading mag’s. I will not go to the camps, I will not take a tattoo on my arm, I will not go into the darkness like a lamb. The forces of hell better bring a lunch and all there friends as it will be a long day.
Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
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The Rapture is before all of this. The Tribulation is something that can be avoided now if one accepts Jesus Christ. Right now, the prophetic time line is on hold,as we are in the Age of Grace, but I believe that door is rapidly closing.
“Satan will literally be cast down to earth with great wrath, because he knows his time is short.”
He’s already here. I believe what the scripture means that the restraints are taken away is the Holy Spirit, just like with Job, and the devil will have full reign. The devil is here now and is the prince of this world.
Why would a mark be needed if there are no believers left?
I was really getting a lot out of this thread and enjoying the exchange of faith and information...until your comment. Is that an attempt to win people over to your point of view or just to insult them?
agree. a secret, early rapture does not make any sense, but for to comfort ourselves that we get to miss the really horrible things to come.
I think if you look at my post 61 I have addressed one of the passages you refer to.
Did someone teach you to not read the book of revelation? There are those that do that.
“The 144,000 sealed Jews.”
Amen, and they will witness after the Lord sends the two witnesses to Jerusalem to convert twelve thousand men from 12 tribes of Israel, now in the land but in unbelief. The two witnesses will witness for 3 1/2 years and then be killed by the beast and the world will send gifts one to another because they were tormented by their witness of God’s son Jesus Christ as the Way, the Truth, and the Life of all who would see heaven, contrary to so many heresies taught as doctrine in todays largly apostate Church. And their dead bodies will lie in the streets of Jerusalem for some 3 days and the whole world will see them rise from the dead on the third day and ascend into heaven when the voice of God commands them to arise and stand on their feet. Then the witness of the 144,000 jewish young men will begin their 3 1/2 year ministry as Revelation teaches, and the Lord will also send an angel to witness the gospel in the heavens. Christ Jesus suffered the wrath of God in His body on the tree sheding His sinless blood for all who would believe on Him as their Lord and Saviour. He did the only Work that God accepts as He was the only sinless man to live on the earth having fulfilled the law for all those He forgives by grace only through faith only.
Ephesians Chapter 2
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1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Instead of being rude, Karl, why don’t you post the scripture you refer to AND why don’t you dispute the scripture I posted.
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