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Mixing Up the Sciences of Heaven and Earth
Crisis Magazine ^ | June 18, 2015 | FR. GEORGE W. RUTLER

Posted on 06/18/2015 11:50:35 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 06/18/2015 11:50:35 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 06/18/2015 11:50:58 AM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: NYer; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ..
Hey, the same kind of thing happens all the time around here. ;') Thanks NYer.

3 posted on 06/18/2015 12:00:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: NYer

It’s notable that there is no general theory of climate change. There are several articles attacking something called “a general theory of climate change denial” which end up being attacks on capitalism. This pope is also committed to destroying capitalism.


4 posted on 06/18/2015 12:04:35 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: NYer

This Pope is an advocate of Liberation Theology which turns everything spiritual into the political as well, to the effect that he sticks his nose into fields of which he knows absolutely nothing, but would dictate to us all about them anyway.


5 posted on 06/18/2015 12:19:44 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: NYer
An A+ for Fr. Rutler.

He summarizes succintly in essentially two main points, the problem here;

1) This is mission overreach to an area into which the papal charism does not extend.

2) Given the current crises which face Christendom (Islamic persecution, the destruction of marriage, the disregard for the unborn, etc), is the subject of ecological and climatic conservation really the area where guidance is most needed?

6 posted on 06/18/2015 12:34:07 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: NYer
Galileo really helped his case when he put the words of the pope in the mouth of his character Simplicius, "Fool".
7 posted on 06/18/2015 12:45:44 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

What business is it of any Church what a scientist says or believes? The house arrest of Galileo is proof enough of the charade of wisdom of “Popes”.


8 posted on 06/18/2015 12:55:13 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: NYer
While the Holy Father has spoken eloquently about the present genocide of Christians in the Middle East, those who calculate priorities would have hoped for an encyclical about this fierce persecution, surpassing that of the emperor Decius. Pictures of martyrs being beheaded, gingerly filed away by the media, give the impression that their last concern on earth was not climate fluctuations.


Fr. Rutler subtly and correctly points out that an encyclical condemning the despicable evils being perpatrated by ISIS Muslims right now would seem to be far more compelling and urgently pressing than this tired but radically leftist, (though modulated) rant about the still unsettled science of "climate change", which we just got from Pope Francis today.

(To keep things in a balanced perspective, I always like to review the following video, whenever a leftist goes off on another climate change rant.)

"How the Global Warming Scare Began" (John Coleman)

9 posted on 06/18/2015 1:07:20 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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To: onedoug

“This Pope is an advocate of Liberation Theology...”

Actually he’s an opponent of that theology.


10 posted on 06/18/2015 1:41:12 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BipolarBob

The Church doesn’t exactly have a great track record when it comes to matters of science.


11 posted on 06/18/2015 1:42:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BipolarBob
"What business is it of any Church what a scientist says or believes?"

There are exceptions, such as the theory that, rather than being created in the Image and Likeness of God, we descended from apes.

12 posted on 06/18/2015 2:07:48 PM PDT by Grateful2God ( + Jesus cried.....Eli, Eli, lamma sabacthani? ...My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me? +)
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To: Boogieman

Not from what I’ve seen, regardless what he claims.


13 posted on 06/18/2015 2:12:06 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: JimSEA

THIS OPE is committed to the new world order, because he imagines the Vatican will rule it with the aid of the ETs the Vatican is tracking in their binocular telescope atop Mt Graham in AZ. He has already told the world that he will baptize them, unless they have to baptize us.


14 posted on 06/18/2015 2:18:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Grateful2God

As much as they disagree with that theory/falsehood, they should not have the authority to imprison/murder/torture people they disagree with. The Catholic Church has had that power in the past and abused it.


15 posted on 06/18/2015 2:43:12 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: NYer

I’m shaking my head and rolling my eyes over this Pope. God Bless him, but of all things to write an encyclical on he picks climate change. Very sad and disappointing, especially with such diabolical attacks on the family and Christians these days.


16 posted on 06/18/2015 2:58:04 PM PDT by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: JimSEA

You missed the two times that he mentioned that this matter is open for debate.


17 posted on 06/18/2015 3:41:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gerish; Mrs. Don-o

Where are you seeing attacks on the family?

Calling Mrs Don-o who has proof that Pope Francis is family centered — against abortion, against euthanasia.


18 posted on 06/18/2015 3:43:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gerish; Salvation
The following link-list is not a "balanced" list of everything the Pope has been saying, but rather a "balancing" list. I'm trying to supply needed perspective by providing links to material that is rarely or never highlighted by Sedevacantist and Tabloid Trads and the Left EneMedia.

Any discussion of the strange convergence of interests between the Sedevacantist blogosphere and the Left EneMedia is something I'll have to save for a later date.


LINKS:

Pope Francis Tells Couples To Wait Until Marriage To Have Sex

Pope Francis: Gender Theory Is a Threat to Society

Pope: Marriage between man and woman is threatened by gender ideology

Pope Francis: “Children have a ‘Right’ to a Mother and Father”

The Closed Door of Pope Francis (Speaks against abortion, divorce, and homosexuality)

Pope Francis: marriage inscribed in creation (Man/Woman)

Pope Francis and the family, the next step (pro-Traditional Family)

Pope Francis is starting to look a lot like Sarah Palin (Guardian UK dumps Francis)

A Letter to Pope Francis (Pope defends man-woman marriage)

Pope: Men, Women “Different”

Pope Rejects ‘So-Called Gender Theory’

Pope Rejected Gay French Diplomat as Ambassador to Holy See

Pope Francis 'refuses' gay French ambassador

Kasper is Not the 'Pope's Theologian,' Says Leading African Cardinal

Cardinal Burke Denies Rift With Pope, Warns of ‘Gay Agenda’ for Synod

Pope: Men, Women “Different”

Pope Rejects ‘So-Called Gender Theory’

Pope Rejected Gay French Diplomat as Ambassador to Holy See

Pope Francis 'refuses' gay French ambassador

Pope Francis condemns gender theory a third time: ‘The family is under attack’

Pope Francis defends church’s opposition to artificial contraception

Pope Francis Defends Human Nature Against Gender Radicals

Pope's Shocking Hitler Youth Comparison (Pope blasts gender theory)

Pope Francis: ‘The Choice To Not Have Children Is Selfish’

Pope declares couples who don’t want kids ‘selfish,’ says they are part of a ‘greedy generation’

Pope Francis on abortion: ‘Never, never does killing a person resolve a problem’

Pope Francis praises Chilean mother who chose life for baby with anencephaly at heart of abortion debate

Bringing children into the world is never a ‘mistake’: Pope Francis

Don’t be afraid to have more children: Pope Francis

Pope Francis supports Slovak effort to ban gay ‘marriage’, adoption

Pope Francis Defends Human Nature Against Gender Radicals

Pope's Shocking Hitler Youth Comparison (Pope blasts gender theory)

Pope to Catholic couples: you can’t get married if you’re not open to children

Pope Francis praises Humanae Vitae, warns of attacks on family

19 posted on 06/18/2015 4:00:44 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Gay marriage is a machination of the Father of Lies to deceive the children of God."- Pope Francis)
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To: Gerish; Salvation
The following link-list is not a "balanced" list of everything the Pope has been saying, but rather a "balancing" list. I'm trying to supply needed perspective by providing links to material that is rarely or never highlighted by Sedevacantist and Tabloid Trads and the Left EneMedia.

Any discussion of the strange convergence of interests between the Sedevacantist blogosphere and the Left EneMedia is something I'll have to save for a later date.


LINKS:

Pope Francis Tells Couples To Wait Until Marriage To Have Sex

Pope Francis: Gender Theory Is a Threat to Society

Pope: Marriage between man and woman is threatened by gender ideology

Pope Francis: “Children have a ‘Right’ to a Mother and Father”

The Closed Door of Pope Francis (Speaks against abortion, divorce, and homosexuality)

Pope Francis: marriage inscribed in creation (Man/Woman)

Pope Francis and the family, the next step (pro-Traditional Family)

Pope Francis is starting to look a lot like Sarah Palin (Guardian UK dumps Francis)

A Letter to Pope Francis (Pope defends man-woman marriage)

Pope: Men, Women “Different”

Pope Rejects ‘So-Called Gender Theory’

Pope Rejected Gay French Diplomat as Ambassador to Holy See

Pope Francis 'refuses' gay French ambassador

Kasper is Not the 'Pope's Theologian,' Says Leading African Cardinal

Cardinal Burke Denies Rift With Pope, Warns of ‘Gay Agenda’ for Synod

Pope: Men, Women “Different”

Pope Rejects ‘So-Called Gender Theory’

Pope Rejected Gay French Diplomat as Ambassador to Holy See

Pope Francis 'refuses' gay French ambassador

Pope Francis condemns gender theory a third time: ‘The family is under attack’

Pope Francis defends church’s opposition to artificial contraception

Pope Francis Defends Human Nature Against Gender Radicals

Pope's Shocking Hitler Youth Comparison (Pope blasts gender theory)

Pope Francis: ‘The Choice To Not Have Children Is Selfish’

Pope declares couples who don’t want kids ‘selfish,’ says they are part of a ‘greedy generation’

Pope Francis on abortion: ‘Never, never does killing a person resolve a problem’

Pope Francis praises Chilean mother who chose life for baby with anencephaly at heart of abortion debate

Bringing children into the world is never a ‘mistake’: Pope Francis

Don’t be afraid to have more children: Pope Francis

Pope Francis supports Slovak effort to ban gay ‘marriage’, adoption

Pope Francis Defends Human Nature Against Gender Radicals

Pope's Shocking Hitler Youth Comparison (Pope blasts gender theory)

Pope to Catholic couples: you can’t get married if you’re not open to children

Pope Francis praises Humanae Vitae, warns of attacks on family

20 posted on 06/18/2015 4:01:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Gay marriage is a machination of the Father of Lies to deceive the children of God."- Pope Francis)
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