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To: Mrs. Don-o
>>The Church has the power from the Holy Spirit to teach in His Name--- and that has the support of Scripture.<<

False! First of all the ekklesia Christ was talking about is NOT the Catholic Church. Second, the ekklesia was to support and uphold truth and NOT create new supposed truth like the Catholic Church does. It's telling that you have no support from scripture for your comment about the babies in Bethlehem yet you make it as if it's fact. Not good.

397 posted on 07/03/2015 11:21:08 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
You have an anemic, minimalistic and ahistorical concept of what the "ekklesia" is. We've already gone over that.

Since your "ekklesia" has totally lost the thread of history and exists without continuity, without visible succession, without recognized spokesmen, without authority, without a body of evidence, without a person or an organ or a body of members within it which can bind and loose, lock and unlock, render judgments, teach, govern, sanctify, or, frankly, do anything, I can't take it quite seriously.

Christ's Church exists in history, which means "stuff that actually happened."

399 posted on 07/03/2015 11:43:55 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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