Posted on 07/09/2015 9:33:36 AM PDT by RnMomof7
23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you:
The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said,
“This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25
In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying,
“This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
26 For whenever you eat This bread and drink This cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
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Is ANYONE in this thread REALLY doing it like Jesus did it?
Christ also said, “You brood of vipers”, and you find that easy enough to dismiss . . .
I had the matzo and wine just two nights ago, in Remembrance of His death for me. I do it like Cuban leaf does it, at home, with the Lord’s Presence in Spirit and Truth. I know that Jesus was not there physically in any way because He told me in His word that He would not be physically returning again to Earth until He cleans the place up with a huge outpouring of God’s Wrath.
Article 1. Whether the body of Christ be in this sacrament in very truth, or merely as in a figure or sign?
Objection 1. It seems that the body of Christ is not in this sacrament in very truth, but only as in a figure, or sign. For it is written (John 6:54) that when our Lord had uttered these words: "Except you eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His blood," etc., "Many of His disciples on hearing it said: 'this is a hard saying'": to whom He rejoined: "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing": as if He were to say, according to Augustine's exposition on Ps. 4 [On Psalm 98:9]: "Give a spiritual meaning to what I have said. You are not to eat this body which you see, nor to drink the blood which they who crucify Me are to spill. It is a mystery that I put before you: in its spiritual sense it will quicken you; but the flesh profiteth nothing."
Reply to Objection 1. From this authority the aforesaid heretics have taken occasion to err from evilly understanding Augustine's words. For when Augustine says: "You are not to eat this body which you see," he means not to exclude the truth of Christ's body, but that it was not to be eaten in this species in which it was seen by them. And by the words: "It is a mystery that I put before you; in its spiritual sense it will quicken you," he intends not that the body of Christ is in this sacrament merely according to mystical signification, but "spiritually," that is, invisibly, and by the power of the spirit. Hence (Tract. xxvii), expounding John 6:64: "the flesh profiteth nothing," he says: "Yea, but as they understood it, for they understood that the flesh was to be eaten as it is divided piecemeal in a dead body, or as sold in the shambles, not as it is quickened by the spirit . . . Let the spirit draw nigh to the flesh . . . then the flesh profiteth very much: for if the flesh profiteth nothing, the Word had not been made flesh, that It might dwell among us."
Are there any writings on just HOW it is determined which is which?
If there are, I bet they don’t think that big letters in changing fonts make the argument any better.
Oh??
When Christ says He is the Gate, He is clearly saying something about the nature of Christ and His relationship to us, because He is saying something about Himself. In the sentence "This is My Body," He is clearly saying something relational about the bread;
Don't complain that my remarks BOLDED are spin; if you cannot (or will not) apply the same rule to YOUR remarks.
Acts 1:11
"Men of Galilee," why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner...
Being found in a wafer (Host, for the easily offended) and some wine is NOT the 'same manner'!!!
Do I really have to invoke Clinton in on this?
Why?
They just get a big vat of water, set in on the stove, and then boil the HELL out of it!
Yes!
I've heard that there is a really good one located on the road from Jerusalem to Damascus.
Route 90 is a very scenic trip today as one nears and passes the Sea of Gallilee.
Check it out in GoogleEarth®.
And Eastern, northern, southern and Idaho; too!
What does the Cow say?
Moo!
What does the Pig say?
Oink!
25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
Where is the MAGIC part?
INDEED!
This is what I do when the ANTI-scripturalists come spouting their un-biblical teaching of The WORD.
Your old Logic teachers called.
..said something about a refresher course?
Many of the Catholics have proved very adept at IGNORING the meaning of words spoken by Jesus. They somehow cannot admit that Pharisees are snked!
"You brood of vipers."
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