The Vortex—Stolen Property

churchmilitant.com ^ | May 6, 2015 | Michael Voris

[Talisker]

...because Henry VIII couldn’t control his sexual desires. ...it was a lustful desire of the Catholic king that brought it all tumbling down. ...it all began because of King Henry’s lust. ...a single lust-crazed, murderous monarch...

I miss education.

[STJPII]

Eamon Duffy’ s The Stripping of the Altars is a great book to read regarding all this.

[Salvation]

Good video. So many people do not like to accept the fact that many Catholics were killed in England.

[Alex Murphy]

This country is planted thick with churches and convents and monasteries and practically all of them are stolen property. Buildings that originally were built by Catholic religious orders and everyday Catholics over the course of centuries were ripped off from the Catholic Church in a handful of years because Henry VIII couldn’t control his sexual desires. So part of the fabric of English Catholicism is this undercurrent of having been victimized by the Protestant, usurping monarchy and greedy noblemen. It’s woven into the very life and language of some faithful English Catholics — even so far as questioning the legitimacy of the royal family because the monarchy was also a victim of theft during the religious battles of England.

But how did all this come to pass almost 500 years ago? How did a country, a nation so faithful to the Church that it was called “Mary’s Dowry,” simply flip so easily to the state-run Protestant entity known as Anglicanism, or the Church of England?

What's the matter, Michael Voris? A non-Catholic monarchy got you down?

[RedHeeler]

Nor, that the Catholics killed many, and still, are killing.

[ConservativeMind]

I have relatives whose ancestors Spain evicted because they refused to convert to Catholicism. They lost all they had, and some left behind were killed or forced to convert.

Screw the Catholic church and their buildings lost in England! Catholics have nothing to stand on, should they believe what England did was wrong.

[Alex Murphy]

So many people do not like to accept the fact that many Catholics were killed in England

So many Catholics want people to forget the fifth of November.

[ConservativeMind]

So many Catholics don’t recall the Spanish Inquisition.

I’m okay with the deaths of those Catholics because Catholics were okay with the deaths of those in Spain.

[Salvation]

There are two sides to this coin, but I believe many more Catholics were killed by the monarchs and the cronies.

[Salvation]

Please delve a little deeper into the Inquisition. I know I need to.

[tumblindice]

Lusty King Hank and His Lust Hog minstrels playing their big hits “Greensleeves” and “Lust in the Yorkshire Dust”!
Now available for parties, drawings-and-quartering, bar mitzvahs, rackings and drunken revelries.

[ConservativeMind]

Delve deeper? The family I married into escaped with their lives from the Catholic church in Spain by fleeing to Central America.

Read your own damn history.

[RedHeeler]

Okay.

[ConservativeMind]

What’s funny is that they say, in the towns around them, you can always tell who is the son of the local priest.

The Catholic church is a grossly broken institution, at best.

[Salvation]

For both of us.

The Inmquisition

Sooner or later, any discussion of apologetics with Fundamentalists will address the Inquisition. To non-Catholics it is a scandal; to Catholics, an embarrassment; to both, a confusion. It is a handy stick for Catholic-bashing, simply because most Catholics seem at a loss for a sensible reply. This tract will set the record straight.

[Salvation]

I don’t appreciate such language on the Religion Forum. Please see the link I posted.

[Alex Murphy]

Sooner or later, any discussion of apologetics with Fundamentalists will address the Inquisition. To non-Catholics it is a scandal; to Catholics, an embarrassment; to both, a confusion. It is a handy stick for Catholic-bashing, simply because most Catholics seem at a loss for a sensible reply.

Speaking of a handy stick for bashing...

[Salvation]

Did you read the article? It’s presents both sides in a level-handed manner.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

It happened because the Pope decided to play politics and side with Spain so they could gain control of England though the Princess Mary. They would marry her off to Philip (her close cousin) with the Pope's approval.

Their problem was that Henry was feeling guilty over having married his brother's widow and he was worried about what would happen to England without a male heir. He was well aware that one of the problems that Richard the Third had was that he had no legitimate heir of his body.

He was also aware that there were still people that would happily welcome the Plantagenet's back to the throne. This was why he and his dad spent so much time tracking them down and killing them.

So Henry was faced with a religious / moral and political quandary.

He turned to the church who had gotten him into this mess with their approval of his forced and quite illegal marriage to his brother's widow.

They promptly decided to push him over the cliff.

It was a power play that went very wrong and I find it funny that they never seem to realize that they did it to themselves.