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The Vortex—Stolen Property
churchmilitant.com ^ | May 6, 2015 | Michael Voris

Posted on 07/09/2015 8:03:43 PM PDT by Morgana

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To: Alex Murphy; Morgana; Salvation; ConservativeMind

Unless the Lord builds the house,
They labor in vain who build it;
Unless the Lord guards the city,
The watchman stays awake in vain.

Ps.127:1


22 posted on 07/09/2015 9:13:19 PM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Talisker

It was nice, wasn’t it? Back when we actually had to pass to be promoted, study to pass. It was a different world then. We had clarity. Right was right and wrong was wrong.


23 posted on 07/09/2015 9:14:06 PM PDT by LouAvul (Venal and evil people are destroying the world you live in.)
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To: Salvation; Alex Murphy
I went to and read the link. One quote near the end stood out as helping to make the entire exercise (of equating bad by Protestants in England to bad by the Catholic church in Spain) somewhat moot:

Protestants cannot make this claim against Catholics without having it backfire on themselves.

You see, I married into a family that was previously Jewish, but is now Protestant. As Jews, they were prohibited by Spain's Catholics from entering the major cities, so they worked and bought land in their towns.

24 posted on 07/09/2015 9:17:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Interesting tidbit of history there. I have German relatives and they also have a different take on the Catholic Church in Germany.


25 posted on 07/09/2015 9:24:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana

The law made you a Catholic, but I assume that the wealth the government church was using to build it’s buildings, was supplied by the British people.


26 posted on 07/09/2015 9:31:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (libertarians have always been for gay marriage and polygamy, gay Scout leaders, gay military.)
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To: Morgana

They “cannot let Catholic truth remain, because Catholic truth is an affront to them.”

True. Citizens in every country should love the Lord and His Church every day. Why is it that some people do not love the Lord and do not study and obey the Magisterium? It is a mystery. I tend to ignore the Lord and downplay the Ten Commandments when I wish to lollygag. Laziness leads to a lack of defense of His Church which has the potential to improve every country.


27 posted on 07/09/2015 9:32:55 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: Salvation

To further clarify, they were prohibited from entering Central American cities—I don’t know if that had been the case in Spain.

One side of her family was on the last boat to head out of Spain for Central America before the Spanish killings went “full bore crazy.”


28 posted on 07/09/2015 9:33:24 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

That’s a nice theory... how did it work out for Anne Boleyn?


29 posted on 07/09/2015 9:39:12 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Salvation
Sooner or later, any discussion of apologetics with Fundamentalists will address the Inquisition. To non-Catholics it is a scandal; to Catholics, an embarrassment; to both, a confusion. It is a handy stick for Catholic-bashing, simply because most Catholics seem at a loss for a sensible reply. This tract will set the record straight.

You really should have put this in quotes, putting it at the end of a hotlink makes it appear to be your words.

FROM THE TRACT:

"Paul and Christ himself warned us that there would be a few ravenous wolves among Church leaders"(Acts 20:29; Matt. 7:15).

If one claims to 'quote' from the Bible, one shouldn't be modifying the words of an Apostle and the Lord Himself by modifying the quotes by adding 'few'.

'Like Israel, medieval Europe was a society of Christian kingdoms that were formally consecrated to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is therefore quite understandable that these Catholics would read their Bibles and conclude that for the good of their Christian society they, like the Israelites before them, "must purge the evil from the midst of you" '(Deut. 13:5, 17:7, 12).

As Catholics have told FR many times regarding the 'prohibition' on Bible reading by the laity (paraphrasing) 'Most lay people couldn't read.' No doubt some of the work was done by the mere minions of the church.

Paul repeats this principle in 1 Corinthians 5:13.

12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

Even the DR says put away, nothing about torturing and killing the wicked person. More Catholic 'intepretation', pretty embarrassing.

30 posted on 07/09/2015 9:45:26 PM PDT by xone
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To: xone

It’s with the link. I thought people could figure it out if the clicked on the link.

Sorry


31 posted on 07/09/2015 9:50:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Morgana

War amongst Christians while islam the ever more quickly sweeps to the fore.


32 posted on 07/09/2015 10:15:14 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: LouAvul
It was nice, wasn’t it? Back when we actually had to pass to be promoted, study to pass. It was a different world then. We had clarity. Right was right and wrong was wrong.

We also knew that truth was complex and rarely fit on a bumper sticker - especially when it involved international politics and struggles for power among religions.

33 posted on 07/09/2015 10:19:42 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ConservativeMind

“Delve deeper? The family I married into escaped with their lives from the Catholic church in Spain by fleeing to Central America.”

They did better than my ancestor. He was tortured for his religious beliefs, then tried for treason for them and after being convicted was hanged drawn and quartered in Wexford Ireland.

Of course my for-bearer was Roman Catholic and his torturers/killers were Protestants in the service of Good Queen Bess.

(FWIW I am not Roman Catholic, but most of my ancestors on my dad’s side were.)


34 posted on 07/09/2015 10:44:29 PM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: onedoug
"War amongst Christians while islam the ever more quickly sweeps to the fore."

There's an odd "hand in glove" relationship between the sort of attacks here in the RF and the media attacks, too.

JMHo

35 posted on 07/09/2015 11:04:22 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Morgana

What about Pope Alexander VI/Borgia. Yeah glad Im not catholic and follow these idiots.


36 posted on 07/10/2015 2:39:48 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: tumblindice

Ten Worst Popes of all Time
http://www.oddee.com/item_96537.aspx

Top 10 Worst Popes in History
http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-popes-in-history.php


37 posted on 07/10/2015 4:09:35 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation; Alex Murphy; boatbums; bkaycee; caww; CynicalBear; Elsie; Dutchboy88; Gamecock; ...

It’s your history. Own it.

As for Catholic bashing, a non-Catholic did not start this thread.


38 posted on 07/10/2015 4:15:24 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Rashputin

Look who’s talking.


39 posted on 07/10/2015 4:21:24 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
A simple search of how many comments a given commentor makes would clear that question right up for you.

Don't forget to count your own for comparison.

40 posted on 07/10/2015 5:15:44 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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