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Can We Save America? Do You Want The Truth?
IFB ^ | 8/4/15

Posted on 08/04/2015 7:48:35 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

With the Republican debates about to take place many are seeking to run for office to "save" America. I liken the 2016 election Republican candidates to those running for captain of the Titanic with only eight minutes left before the "unsinkable" ship goes down. Many of these candidates have great ideas and solutions but are absolutely oblivious that there is not have enough time to execute these solutions to save our nationally doomed "Titanic" ship.

Can we save America my fellow Americans? That question is asked every day by the conservative media and its followers as we ever spiral unto our national doom at EXPONENTIAL speeds. My personal opinion is that we cannot and that Almighty God has given this nation over unto a reprobate mind and are now presently under His Divine judgment (Rom. 1:18-32). It is not hard to see this if we but have the courage to see. In these dire hours with not much time left as a nation. I would personally - as an American - point American's to the ETERNAL salvation which is found in Almighty God's ETERNAL Son (the Lord Jesus Messiah) rather than Republican candidates to deliver this sinking doomed nation.

Look at our outright rejection of Almighty God and His Word! Look at our super abounding lawlessness and its American inhabitants! Look at our lawless leadership! Look at our lewdness and national sex addiction! Look at our 55 million abortion since 1973! Look at our greed, callousness, envy, narcissism, violence and ignorance of rightness! Look at our crippling national addiction to Big godless government! Look at our addiction to technology and to the TV and movie industry ideology! Look at our moral relativism (spiritual and moral) and secularism! Etc...Etc... Etc... My dear friends, stand back and objectively look at our nation just in these last five years and please tell me that we will come out all right in the end? O How we need REALITY today!! One would have to be an absolute fool and delusional optimistic bubble head to say and believe that we can save this nation. Yet the false prophets of the right are peddling this lie and optimistic conservative kool-aid to its unregenerate conservative masses and to ignorant believers in the Savior and they are drinking it up by the barrel full. No wonder the Lord Jesus Christ stated that the Day of the Lord will come as a thief and His second coming from Heaven's glory even more so (1 Thess. 5:2, 2 Peter 3:10, Rev. 3:3, 16:15). There was... once a day that the tide could be turned but since 2008 we are at far past all restoration and remedies for our nation.

We are at a time right now in America’s history when we are about to experience the full collapse of our Republic (socially and fiscally). Our nation’s debt and fiscal situation is at the absolute breaking point and our leadership knows it and is genuinely frightened at the fiscal and social tsunami that is about to take place. For the Left, this is their “perfect storm” and “the ideal crisis” to move their godless agenda forward. For this is their time to seize final control and power, set up a godless secular state and tyrannize the America people into making them absolutely dependent on them for everything. Thus is the fate of a republic when lawlessness has over come its inhabitants and has saturated their minds. When the collapse of a nation’s currency and social order takes place (After the Rapture), the massive vacuum will be filled with fractured nation, civil war and a fascist dictatorship and state. History continues to bare witness to this. We in our world of today have no where to go but straight into the Wrath of Almighty God and global tribulation (Rev. 6-19).

When Americans out right reject Almighty God's Person, RIGHTEOUSNESS, people and moral absolutes for time for a healthy society they are left only with Satan, tyrants, thugs, reprobates, immorality and its horrific consequences, violence and their godless selves (Rom. 1:18-32). How much "peace" do you think that will bring to our nation?

The key to surviving today is to face the REALITY of our day and hour and to see things rightly from Almighty God's ETERNAL perspective! My dear friends, lose the optimistic delusion that we will save America, for that is the greatest demonic lie of our hour and open your hearts and minds to Almighty God's saving solution, His Word and ETERNAL future of RIGHTEOUSNESS (Mark 13:31, John 3:16-17, 36, 1 John 2:15-17, Rev. 21-22:1-5)! My dear friends TRUE PEACE will only come when one acknowledges one's dire need for the Savior of the world and abandon one's fallen subjective worldly perspective and have faith (believe/receive) in Almighty God, His Son and His Holy Word (John 3-7, 16-17, Gal.1:4). See the ETERNAL picture!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


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To: stars & stripes forever

Amen!


21 posted on 08/04/2015 9:20:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: atomic_dog

Yeah, this is what I see, too. Hope I can get my family to one of the good zones after all comes apart.


22 posted on 08/04/2015 9:23:09 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Better question: Can you handle the truth?
23 posted on 08/04/2015 9:23:56 PM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody was going to say it. Why not me?)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

can it be saved? yes.

the real question is... do Americans have the bawls to do what it takes to save it?

51% of the country... does not.


24 posted on 08/05/2015 12:05:32 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Of course the U.S. can be saved, just not at the ballot box. How will such a saving event occur? It is simple: all remaining Americans must just say no to compliance with any and all immoral or oppressive rules/laws/bureaucratic regulations, both local and nationwide. Then, the opportunity to begin the saving event will become obvious.


25 posted on 08/05/2015 1:22:57 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

There have been people betting against the United States since 1776 and some very big bets too. They have all gone home losers


26 posted on 08/05/2015 3:05:12 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreaml)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Did you post this from a street corner somewhere?


27 posted on 08/05/2015 3:23:59 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

The godless in America are in full swing, no doubt about it. They control the media (and the message). They control education. They control government. They control the legal system. They are sinners doing what sinners do. Plain and simple.

Now, the church is another matter. And sadly, she is NOT doing what she is called to do. She is called to be pure. She is called to be holy. She is called to be God’s testimony on earth. The church has fallen into complacency, into carnality, into apostasy. There is no purity (or not enough purity) that America’s sinners can see that would challenge them to live sin-less lives. There is no holiness (or, again, not enough holiness) that America’s sinners might see and say, “God DOES transform a person.” There is no testimony, except maybe one that bears witness to a God of confusion, of tolerance, of apathy (all of which we know does not describe God). It is the church, the church, the church that must get her collective house in order that she might go forth in purity and holiness bearing a testimony for the Lord. The church must acknowledge its sins, its deficiencies, its worldliness, its living too much like the world.

Look at Daniel’s prayer and notice how he does not exclude himself from the waywardness of the nation of Israel:

Dan 9:3 And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes:
Dan 9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;
Dan 9:5 WE have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments:
Dan 9:6 Neither have WE hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land.
Dan 9:7 O Lord, righteousness belongeth unto thee, but unto us confusion of faces, as at this day; to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and unto all Israel, that are near, and that are far off, through all the countries whither thou hast driven them, because of their trespass that they have trespassed against thee.
Dan 9:8 O Lord, to us belongeth confusion of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, because we have sinned against thee.
Dan 9:9 To the Lord our God belong mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebelled against him;
Dan 9:10 Neither have WE obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before US by his servants the prophets.
Dan 9:11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon US, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because WE have sinned against him.
Dan 9:12 And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against US, and against our judges that judged us, by bringing upon US a great evil: for under the whole heaven hath not been done as hath been done upon Jerusalem.
Dan 9:13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made WE not our prayer before the LORD our God, that WE might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.
Dan 9:14 Therefore hath the LORD watched upon the evil, and brought it upon us: for the LORD our God is righteous in all his works which he doeth: for WE obeyed not his voice.
Dan 9:15 And now, O Lord our God, that hast brought thy people forth out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and hast gotten thee renown, as at this day; WE have sinned, WE have done wickedly.
Dan 9:16 O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy city Jerusalem, thy holy mountain: because for OUR sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are become a reproach to all that are about us.
Dan 9:17 Now therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and his supplications, and cause thy face to shine upon thy sanctuary that is desolate, for the Lord’s sake.
Dan 9:18 O my God, incline thine ear, and hear; open thine eyes, and behold our desolations, and the city which is called by thy name: for we do not present our supplications before thee for our righteousnesses, but for thy great mercies.
Dan 9:19 O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name.

It is time for the church to stand before the Lord and pray in all earnestness, “Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.”


28 posted on 08/05/2015 3:41:21 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: caww
Ummmm - God won't pass judgement on "our Nation" - He will judge each of us individually.

Te New Testament/Covenant made for a few changes in the way He does business and He has already told us what His plan is - "... like a thief in the night..."

29 posted on 08/05/2015 3:48:48 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

There have been people betting against the United States since 1776 and some very big bets too. They have all gone home losers


Yep, the united States is a mighty big beast to be betting against.

Rev 13
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.


30 posted on 08/05/2015 6:03:45 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: Yardstick

Did you post this from a street corner somewhere?


Probably one with a light.


31 posted on 08/05/2015 6:05:30 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: caww

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32 posted on 08/05/2015 6:06:42 AM PDT by charlie72
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Yes. I use three dates to remember how America descended into the cesspool -
1) 1965 Prayer banned in publik schools
2) 1973 SCOTUS recognition that we can kill the least able to defend themselves among us, and
3) 2015 The gay perversion is not only a right in America, but is to be celebrated and those who do not support it are to be destroyed.

I would say we are following a similar course the Romans took. I also see eeriely similarities to Germany in the mid 1930s.
33 posted on 08/05/2015 6:17:19 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Sometimes, to save a tree, you have to prune away what has become harmful, burdensome or unnecessary.

Until He comes back in Judgment, to me, God is still the Omniscient Pruner for our good and we have definitely been bad.

I'm hopeful that the prayers of the many will be/have been answered and some necessary pruning will be done to save our tree.

On the other hand, if we're too hard headed, there's always Daniel 9:13-14

Just as written in God’s revelation to Moses, the catastrophe was total. Nothing was held back. We kept at our sinning, never giving you a second thought, oblivious to your clear warning, and so you had no choice but to let the disaster loose on us in full force. You, our God, had a perfect right to do this since we persistently and defiantly ignored you.
I worry we'd treat our own personal Jonah the same as HitchBOT, the hitchhiking robot: beheaded in the city of brotherly love and left by the side of the road.
34 posted on 08/05/2015 6:39:50 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I’m seeing small prayer groups pop up. I think the Supreme Court ruling woke up Christians. I also pray and hope the revelation of planned parenthood selling of babies for their bodies, woke up nonbelievers to the depth of depravity this nation has sunk to. Many have grown cold to all the other immoral behavior, violence, murder, selling of children and women for sex trade,.... On the other hand, animals are fairing well as liberals think they are more precious than babies.


35 posted on 08/05/2015 6:42:30 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

I believe it is too late to save ALL of America. But I believe thru secession large chunks can be saved and become God fearing Constitutional republics.


36 posted on 08/05/2015 6:46:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Yah raises up nations. And knocks em down. All for His purposes.
HalleluYah!

This nation is a vessel for the enemy. Satan’s counterfeit ‘freedom and liberty’ births Hollywood, porn industry, music industry, homosexuality, abortion,etc.

The Savior’s freedom and liberty births obedience to Him and His Commandments.

Satan has a divided Kingdom. An in your face demonic side and a counterfeit righteous side. A divided Kingdom falls.
America is very much on satan’s side. And it is as close to a Babylon and Egypt and Sodom and gomorrah, all rolled into one.

People may not be able to physically leave a babylonian like nation or world,but spiritually, they can.


37 posted on 08/05/2015 6:55:05 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: sten

...”can it be saved? yes....the real question is... do Americans have the bawls to do what it takes to save it?....
51% of the country... does not.”....

Watch Cruz and Trump....it’s significant people do that....Cruz ‘already’ has a power base in Congress...just watch their plays. I can’t stress that enough.


38 posted on 08/05/2015 11:51:38 AM PDT by caww
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
So....it's all over for the U.S.A. because of what Godless liberals are doing and have done?

Don't bother voting Christians-Stay home because Jesus is coming and he's going to take you up in the Rapture.

All those evil-doers are going to get what's coming to them-It's too late-They can't be saved.

Give up. Be silent. Stay home. You don't have to do anything. Just sit there and let your country go. Let it be taken over by darkness.

Never mind all that about your nation's Constitution saying that your rights are given to you by God.

Forget about all the millions of gallons of blood that have been shed to keep you free. Let it go.

Is this really what you think?

Because FWIW-I do agree that we are in big trouble and hard times are ahead-But I think that we are being given a choice about what ultimately happens.

An example of this is demonsrated in the fact that the Planned Parenthood videos came out.

Hideous as it is to see them-They are an example of our Lord revealing to people what has been hidden from them in darkness- by bringing it out into the light.

This will give some-who have been deluded by liberal lies- a chance for Salvation- because it shows them the truth-and gives them a choice: To repent or not.

We are also being given a chance to choose which path our country will take because we have the right to vote.

IMO- We need to daily thank Him for the enormous mercy he shows by not giving us what we truly deserve and ask Him to grant to us a God fearing leader and good people who will help us restore our nation into one which is pleasing to Him.

It does seem hopeless at times, but, I just don't think God wants us to let our country go down. If anything, I think He is calling us to do more, much more, to restore it and preach His message to the people.

Lord please bring us together that we do your will- Amen

39 posted on 08/05/2015 2:28:00 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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