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Mary, Mother of God, The Greatest of all Her Titles
http://www.catholicchristiananswers.com ^ | August 12, 2015 | Jessie Neace

Posted on 08/17/2015 6:07:35 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: WVKayaker

Darn I only got a cult and two cultists...I was going for three cultists.....I almost filled my card for the day too.


321 posted on 08/19/2015 3:35:02 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: WVKayaker

My apologies.
I returned evil with evil.
We know Mary was graced by becoming the mother of the baby Jesus. She was not the mother of His soul and the body of Jesus did not have life until breathed into Him by God the Father.

FWIW, the mistaken notion in theology that Mary is the Mother of God, implicitly denies the RCC doctrine of the Hypostatic Union.


322 posted on 08/19/2015 3:36:13 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: vladimir998
To be clear....a foot note is not scripture. Maybe in your world it is but its not in the bible.

Monfront. Ok a typo. Must be a huge anti catholic conspiracy.....

. Yet you ignore his quote in a deflection of the issue.

I posted the source of the quotes, which you obviously found and as you can see these are books....maybe you've heard of them.

Man the clintons would love you.

You're trying to use proposing to compare to kneeling before Mary!!! Oh man, you made my day. LOL!

You keep telling yourself you're not worshipping Mary when you kneel before her.

Later.

323 posted on 08/19/2015 4:09:06 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: kinsman redeemer

Actually, no. I made no mistakes at all.


324 posted on 08/19/2015 4:21:27 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ealgeone

“Yet you ignore his quote in a deflection of the issue.”

There was no ignoring it nor deflection. Nothing you have posted means anything for your side of the argument. You post things that prove nothing about your central claim: that Catholics worship Mary, that she is an idol, that her statues are idols that are worshiped. Seriously, you fail in every single you you put up to prove any of that.

“I posted the source of the quotes, which you obviously found and as you can see these are books....maybe you’ve heard of them.”

But the point is that you got the quote from an anti-Catholic website, right? You didn’t get it from a book, right? You never any of the books in question, correct? You don’t read, you don’t study, you don’t investigate, right? All you do is rely on anti-Catholic websites, right?

Anti-Catholics are perfectly predicable: they know little or nothing about much of anything; they read little; they rely on anti-Catholics for their information; they certainly care nothing about context; they repeatedly insist one thing is another even when it clearly is not. Example:

“You keep telling yourself you’re not worshipping Mary when you kneel before her.”

I’ve never knelt before Mary. She’s in heaven. You’re confusing an artwork that depicts her with the actual person. You’re the only one here who is doing that. Now, a person with any circumspection, with any intelligence at all, would recognize that obvious fact.


325 posted on 08/19/2015 4:31:01 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
But the point is that you got the quote from an anti-Catholic website, right? You didn’t get it from a book, right? You never any of the books in question, correct? You don’t read, you don’t study, you don’t investigate, right? All you do is rely on anti-Catholic websites, right?

The Clintons are paging vladimir998.....please pick up on the conspiracy line.

326 posted on 08/19/2015 4:55:19 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
What is the saddest part of all this is that these people are so well indoctrinated that they actually believe all the garbage crammed down their throats since childhood.

Sincerity and believing in the Easter Bunny to bring you to God will not end up well.

Why the Easter Bunny, you ask? Because it is just as much a myth as their false religion. We can pray that hearts will be opened to the Truth, but it will only be through the Holy Spirit. Satan is undoubtably proud of his work with the Roman Catholic cult!

Black is white...

327 posted on 08/19/2015 5:19:51 AM PDT by WVKayaker (On Scale of 1 to 5 Palins, How Likely Is Media Assault on Each GOP Candidate?)
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To: vladimir998
I am responding to you ONLY because you're entertaining. Your self-promotion in the face of facts fascinates me.

1. You made statements.

2. I disagreed with your statements.

3. By definition, your statements are "claims."

4. You said, “I make no claims.”

5. You said, "Actually, no. I made no mistakes at all."

6. You err. You are incorrect. You made mistakes. You have been wrong (and on many of more of your claims as well). You failed.

.

¡no más!

You may as well put whatever response you might think up in the bit bucket. You've already proved yourself.

328 posted on 08/19/2015 6:14:39 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: WVKayaker

You “know Jesus” because the Catholic Church gave you the Bible to “know Jesus”. Now have a nice day.


329 posted on 08/19/2015 6:32:56 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Arthur McGowan

“Thank you for finally admitting that God made Mary the Mother of God.”

Nah. He made her to bear Messiah.


330 posted on 08/19/2015 6:43:00 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Jesus is not God?


331 posted on 08/19/2015 6:46:56 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

Arthur,
“Are you going to continue to contradict the word of God, the gospel, the Scriptures, by refusing to call Mary “the mother of God”?”

I posted *extensively up thread on this passage, showing it means something different than you claim. Read it if you are interested. I don’t see any point in reposting it again.

In short, I won’t call dear Mary that which God never called her. Why would you take the position of superiority to God in this matter and insist others follow this error?

I am content to trust He knows exactly what He chose dear Mary to do. I never want to go down that path of idolizing this humble woman or making her into a demigoddess.

Best


332 posted on 08/19/2015 6:48:44 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Arthur McGowan

“Jesus is not God?”

No reason to rehash what I already stated Arthur.

Best


333 posted on 08/19/2015 6:49:53 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: NKP_Vet

I agree it is very bad to lie to children by using cartoons.
I agree it is very bad to teach children to idolize a sinful human.
I agree it is very bad to take the focus off the One who saves eternally and substitute the one who was blessed to hear Him.

So at last we agree!

Best


334 posted on 08/19/2015 7:03:01 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Arthur McGowan
"Are you going to continue to contradict the word of God, the gospel, the Scriptures, by refusing to call Mary “the mother of God”? Yes, I'm not in the religion of the magicsteeringthem.

Are you going to continue to worship the mother goddess, even though the Bible tells you that before there was a Universe God existed, even before there was a Mary Mother of Jesus?

God's name is I AM. Therefore anything finite cannot have been the Mother of I AM. BUT, the blessed Mother of Jesus can be the Mother of the man-side of Jesus without contradicting the Bible. Why is it that your magicsteeringthem doesn't see that?

335 posted on 08/19/2015 7:16:15 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Romulus

It is impossible to be Christian without Christ. Where else does one find Christ? At any rate, to what ‘Christians were you referring?


336 posted on 08/19/2015 7:48:57 AM PDT by xone
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To: Romulus
Got anything besides circular reasoning?

So referencing God's view of scripture as a defense of scripture is circular reasoning now? Can't help you then.

337 posted on 08/19/2015 7:50:52 AM PDT by xone
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To: MHGinTN

Mary cannot be the mother of the “man-side” of Jesus without being the mother of God for a very simple reason: Jesus is ONE PERSON, the Second Person of the Trinity.

The title “Mother of God” has NEVER meant that Mary is the mother of the eternal, Triune God. Objecting to the title on the grounds that Mary is a creature of God only shows that you have no idea what the title means.


338 posted on 08/19/2015 7:51:40 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Romulus
You’ve never actually read Galatians, have you?

Of course, what's your beef, was Paul speaking in tongues? Requiring belief in Marian doctrine for salvation is a different Gospel.

339 posted on 08/19/2015 7:52:29 AM PDT by xone
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To: xone
Where else does one find Christ?

You're joking, right? Ever read the New Testament? Not one single Christian found there ever found Jesus in Scripture. The Kakure Kirishitan are another example of a community that knew Jesus without Scripture. Scripture is not an indispensable element of Christianity unless it's the idol you worship.

340 posted on 08/19/2015 8:12:57 AM PDT by Romulus
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