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Is the (Catholic) Church Prepared to Confront the Secular Culture?
Crisis Magazine ^ | August 31, 2015 | STEPHEN M. KRASON

Posted on 08/31/2015 2:16:01 PM PDT by NYer

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

While you are alive, Jesus is perfect mercy. At the moment of your death Jesus become perfect justice.

Something to think about.


21 posted on 08/31/2015 4:46:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer
No it is not.

It is, however, quite ready, willing, and able to confront those awful Fundamentalist Protestants who are stuck in the past that they actually think G-d can't state anything that isn't true.

And Catholics wonder where their current crisis came from!

22 posted on 08/31/2015 5:34:10 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: NYer

Not while the current person is pope.


23 posted on 08/31/2015 5:36:13 PM PDT by TheStickman
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To: Salvation

Seems the Pope has more faith in totalitarian government than in God.

http://www.wnd.com/2015/08/mega-agenda-21-resurrected-with-popes-help/


24 posted on 08/31/2015 5:45:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Is the Pope Catholic?)
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To: asyouwish

You are welcome, asyouwish.


25 posted on 08/31/2015 6:32:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." - Psalm 89:15)
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To: NYer
The rush to fashion a whole new set of lay “ministries” perhaps partly betrayed the influence of an ever-expanding notion of democracy—a kind of “cultural democracy”—in American life generally. So, many parishes today have an excessive number of “eucharistic” ministers (sometimes conducting priest-less “communion services”), readers, servers, cantors, and masters of ceremonies. While it’s true that none of them replaces the priest, one wonders if this does not have the symbolic effect—at least for some amongst a poorly catechized laity—of blurring the differences between clergy and laity.

The attempt to "empower the laity" resulted in giving the laity "priestly" things to do. That was absolutely wrong. The fundamental task of the priest is to bring Christ into the world, through consecrating the Eucharist. The fundamental task of the laity is to take Christ into the world, and be the "leaven" in society. Post-Vatican II, the Church completely ignored this duty of the laity.

26 posted on 08/31/2015 7:10:27 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

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27 posted on 08/31/2015 7:34:00 PM PDT by asyouwish (Philippians 4:8)
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To: NYer

Is the (Catholic) Church Prepared to Confront the Secular Culture? >>

no, most priests, nuns and bishops are democrats, the secularists are the politicians they vote for so the politicians can represent them in government, we’re a republic, right? When democrat priests vote for the anti-God secularist crowd, they are voting for people who represent their ideals and beliefs.


28 posted on 08/31/2015 8:02:50 PM PDT by Coleus (For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.)
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To: NYer

I would say the unilateral disarmament seems to be coming from the top, not just the Pope, but bishops also. But I could be wrong. Granted, one probably shouldn’t talk about moral issues all the time, but to never talk about them and give the appearance of giving a wink and a nudge to those who are promoting the false moral of the current world is just wrong, IMHO. Mercy is of course important, but to say sin is not sin and doesn’t matter is false mercy.


29 posted on 08/31/2015 8:53:12 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Coleus; metmom; boatbums; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
no, most priests, nuns and bishops are democrats,

Only stats I found as God enables in grace:

Table 18.5 records the actual level of political engagement reported by Catholic priests in the election of 2000; such activity seems to have been somewhat limited in nature. Only a bare majority of respondents (54 percent) publicly took the unexceptionable position of urging the members of their congregations to register and vote, and just less than half of the priests in the sample (48 percent) prayed publicly about a political issue. A minority of these priests engaged in other political activities: less than two of five (38 percent) Catholic clergy had con-tacted a public official about some issue; only one-third (33 percent) took a stand on some political issue while preaching; and less than one-quarter (23 percent) prayed publicly for political candidates.

Despite the expectations of some analysts (see especially Prendergast 1999), Catholic priests remain largely Democratic in their personal political identifications. Just under half (48 percent) report identifying with the Democratic Parry, while only 31 percent consider themselves Republicans.. However, the pattern of party preference is distinctive in another sense. Given that the distribution of partisan identification among clergy in many other denominations examined in this volume are skewed in the direction of one particular political party, the relatively equal distribution of Catholic priests within each category of partisan identification tends to be unique. In addition, given the older age of many of the priests surveyed, it is noteworthy that there is a higher pro-portion of Republican Party identifiers among younger, rather than older, priests...

Roman Catholic clergy exhibit a combination of anticipated and unex-pected patterns in their theology, political attitudes, and political behav-ior. Theologically, the prints express views that are both conservative and liberal in their theological interpretation. On some doctrinal mat-ters, Catholics pastors are highly orthodox in their theological under-standings and stand in agreement with many conservative Protestant clergy; on other theological matters, they adopt positions that stand in stark contrast to such conservative pastors and appear to be more liberal in their theological beliefs than many mainline Protestant ministers. - Pulpit and Politics: Clergy in American Politics at the Advent of the Millennium edited by Corwin E. Smidt, pp. 244-246 , Baylor University Press (October 6, 2004)


30 posted on 08/31/2015 9:43:43 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: Salvation
...that a good preacher preaches with the newspaper in one hand and the Bible in the other.

Better, Free Republic threads.

31 posted on 08/31/2015 10:47:29 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: NYer
Is the (Catholic) Church Prepared to Confront the Secular Culture? ITSELF??
32 posted on 09/01/2015 4:39:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Fewer Catholics are getting a Catholic elementary/high school education.

And few Americans are getting a solid elementary/high school education.

33 posted on 09/01/2015 4:41:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
It is, however, quite ready, willing, and able to confront those awful Fundamentalist Protestants ...



34 posted on 09/01/2015 4:50:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I would say the unilateral disarmament seems to be coming from the top, not just the Pope, but bishops also. But I could be wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kellogg%E2%80%93Briand_Pact

Peace in our time soon followed....


35 posted on 09/01/2015 4:52:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: onedoug

INDEED!


36 posted on 09/01/2015 4:53:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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