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1 posted on 10/12/2015 8:32:47 AM PDT by Salvation
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The bottom line is, it’s never good for anyone, or for civilization as a whole, when huge numbers opt out of or find no access to our most fundamental building block: the traditional family. We must save traditional marriage if we stand any chance of saving our dying civilization.

Monsignor Pope Ping!

2 posted on 10/12/2015 8:37:20 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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My son was dear johned during his second Afghan deployment. Needless to say he is done looking. He said if it happens it will, but he has stopped looking and is actually living the dream. Piece of land, a dog, some horses and cattle, good job and do whatever/go wherever he wants. I know he wants a family but the cheating beyotch he was married to burned him.


3 posted on 10/12/2015 8:39:06 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Netflix has a documentary called DIVORCE CORP. Good summary of the anti-male divorce laws in this country and the fallout.

Sex is easy to get these days. Women will sleep with men as readily as men. Kids are costly. Marriage is a terrible bet. The media glorifies single moms and bastard kids.

So the wonderful solution of the secular west is to bring in... immigrants to prevent population implosion.

Also, watch the first five or ten minutes of IDIOCRACY. Good summary of what’s going on!


4 posted on 10/12/2015 8:39:07 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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For the first time in history, the number of women in the workplace has exceeded the number of men?

Gents, what’s the excuse? Explanation?


6 posted on 10/12/2015 8:40:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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I’ll read it, but just from the headline, c pope or not, why would a man want to get married when a girl will act married without the commitment? Why wouldn’t a normal guy in high school go out with the girl who practices birth control and dump the nice girl?

After marriage, what is marriage when the woman is practicing birth control? It’s friends with benefits to the guy

Anywhere I look women are raising kids alone.

Tgis started in 1973 and it will continue to get worse until and only until women and high school girls wise up and stop putting out

Ps men are no better off in this confused state, but they are programmed to say yes every time


7 posted on 10/12/2015 8:41:32 AM PDT by stanne
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I'm responding only to the headline

I haven't read a thing ....

Younger people don't go to church
(anyone's guess and a million reasons why not ... it doesn't matter)

Church is where proper and spiritual moral values are (supposed) to taught and WITNESSED (because of adult example)

The adults that ARE in church too often look no different than going shopping ... except maybe pressed and a little cleaner


Bottom line;

No one's teaching, No one learns.


The female has ALWAYS been the mysterious one, but not anymore, so there's no intrigue to chase and hunt (sorry for the metaphore)

It's a viscious spiral down ... women don't morally entice, men aren't that interested, women are taught to confuse sex with allurement, men lust, people hook up, but so do dogs


My two cent's worth (Isaiah ch 3 and others)

8 posted on 10/12/2015 8:43:14 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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10 posted on 10/12/2015 8:45:08 AM PDT by huldah1776
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Msgr. Pope always reliably speaks truth. I’m surprised +Wuerl hasn’t shut him down.


12 posted on 10/12/2015 8:51:12 AM PDT by jtal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle ....)
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Perhaps I'm out in left field here but perhaps this is a reason we suddenly see so many men wanting to become women. Men are essentially becoming emasculated and traditional "male" behavior is being discouraged in our schools. More and more, boys in school are expected to behave in a similar way to the girls. Even playful tussling in the schoolyard is now seen as "violent activity" that must not be tolerated.

Then many men who do attempt to marry and carry on a traditional family lifestyle is often cast as a patriarchal oppressor unless he is willing to do his share of the housework, baby raising, etc., all while encouraging his wife to find herself, whether it be in a career or just in the house. In other words, women have all the choices, the man must acquiesce to them, while still having the burden of bringing home the bacon.

Maybe that's why so many men just want to put on a dress and make their emasculation official.

13 posted on 10/12/2015 8:53:00 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things done with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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Risk losing everything you’ve worked for plus being order to paying child support for all most ever? No thanks.


14 posted on 10/12/2015 8:53:23 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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I think economic factors are the primary cause.

Lack of good paying jobs with decent health benefits.

Many young people simply cannot afford homes or families these days.


19 posted on 10/12/2015 8:57:45 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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quote “In my mere 26 years of priesthood, I have seen the number of weddings I perform each year decrease from 35 to 5”

that’s more a reflection on the church than marriage.

I am in a business that deals with weddings almost exclusively, and the only difference I see is that most people are skipping having their ceremony at a church. This mainly a budget issue. Churches these days in our area charge $1,200-$1,500 for just a few hours for the ceremony.

Traditionally, if you were a member .. that was FREE.

When a young couple is looking for things to cut to save money, this is where they will cut.


20 posted on 10/12/2015 8:58:24 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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Do not underestimate the utility of the “Nothing Box” ...


25 posted on 10/12/2015 9:00:38 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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Speaking as a (young-ish) man, from my interactions with other guys -- there are legitimate concerns about the courts favoring women and so forth, but a great deal of the problem is rooted in selfishness and laziness. A lot of men just don't want to have a wife and kids. They don't want to put themselves out for a family, financially or personally. They're too lazy to put the necessary effort into maintaining relationships. They just don't feel like putting a family before themselves, spending money on a family that they'd rather spend on themselves, spending time on a family that they'd rather spend pursuing their own interests, they don't want to being tied-down or committed. And as the article notes, they can get milk without buying the cow. And of course, they find that women are every bit as selfish as themselves, and how can two selfish people commit to a sacrament that fundamentally requires you to put another person before yourself?

Ironically enough, guys I know who emphatically insist that they will never put themselves out in the slightest for a relationship, will walk through fire to help out one of their male friends. Our culture has cultivated a fundamental distrust, verging on contempt, between the sexes.

28 posted on 10/12/2015 9:02:23 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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Contemporary US women don’t seem to like men all that much.

And, as far as my twenty-something sons are concerned, the feeling is mutual.


32 posted on 10/12/2015 9:06:26 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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assume he is referring to men marrying women...the other seems to be on the rise


33 posted on 10/12/2015 9:06:45 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Salvation

It’s even worse than Msgr. Pope says.


37 posted on 10/12/2015 9:12:13 AM PDT by Campion
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I was always told: “Men: why buy the cow when the milk comes free”.....”Women: why buy the whole pig when you only get a little sausage”...
40 posted on 10/12/2015 9:14:24 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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Heard a woman who called in to a radio show this morning and was “heart-broken” because this great guy who was smart, had a great job, kind and thoughtful, and owned his own home hasn’t called her in a couple of weeks. In short, he was the man of her dreams.

She also mentioned that she hd a small child, and had been in about 10 abusive relationships.

My first thought was all the things she liked about this guy are the vey reasons he hasn’t called.


46 posted on 10/12/2015 9:18:57 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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When the future best selling, non fiction book explaining the root causes of the demise of Western civilization, I wonder whether there will be a sizable chapter devoted to the impact of “the Pill?" Significant changes in human morality and behavior on both genders were the direct result of this development.
54 posted on 10/12/2015 9:24:10 AM PDT by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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