Our Lady of Fatima – Her Prophecies and Warnings Remain as Essential as Ever!

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 10-12-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[af_vet_1981]

The observant reader will note, Allah is none of the above.

Allah is the Arabic word for God, as El/Elohim are the Hebrew words for God.

So the question still remains....do catholics and muslims adore the same God??Question already answered: among nonChristians both the Jews, Samaritans, and Moslems profess to worship and adore the God of Abraham that Catholics worship and adore.

[af_vet_1981]

I understand your reply as another “no” and that you do not think the Jews worship and adore the same God of Abraham that you profess to worship and adore.

[af_vet_1981]

The answer is yes as God in the OT is the same in the NT. He doesn't change.

I'll put you down as a "yes" that there is only one God of Abraham.

[HossB86]

Catholics worship and adore the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who is "The God" that both the Jews and Moslems (as well as others like the Samaritans) also profess to worship and adore.

Here's a hint: Mohammedans (Muslims) do NOT worship or profess to adore the same God as Jews and Christians. Allah has NONE of the attributes of the one true living God. If you don't believe me, try asking a Mohammedan. I have. And I was told in no uncertain terms. Try reading the Qu'ran if you don't believe me. Try to find the similarities. You won't find any.

There is only one holy catholic apostolic church. If you imagine otherwise you are mistaken.

There is only one catholic (little c, by the way) church -- the body of believers. It's NOT the Roman Catholic Church. And to quote you, if you imagine otherwise, you are mistaken. The Roman Catholic Church's CCC is filled with error and contradiction. CCC 841 is the prime example.

You said "Catholics worship and adore the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who is "The God" that both the Jews and Moslems (as well as others like the Samaritans) also profess to worship and adore." Do YOU worship the same "God" as Mohammedans? If you do, you are in agreement with the Roman Catholic Church, but not in agreement with God Almighty; if you don't, then you're in rebellion against the Roman Catholic Church, but possibly in accord with God (if you believe and trust in Jesus Christ (and nothing else) for your salvation.

So.... do YOU?

You are of a Protestant tradition that rejects the Jews. Catholics accept the Jews as elder brethren.

Actually.... no. But since you're making the claim, you go right ahead and prove it.

Hoss

[ealgeone]

>>The answer is yes as God in the OT is the same in the NT. He doesn't change.<<

I'll put you down as a "yes" that there is only one God of Abraham.

You show you lack of understanding of God as He is revealed in the Bible.

He is the same in the OT and the NT.

HE DOES NOT CHANGE.

[HossB86]

compare the attributes of Allah and Jehovah. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll find your statement that Allah and God are the same is actually false.

Hoss

[WVKayaker]

I entertained his charade, but his cooperation was feigned.

These cultists are so intent on following their lies, that they can't accept truth. Their superstitions and practiced tolerance for myths and wives tales reveals everything we need to know to reject their cult. they rely on their traditions, not on the Word of God. the only time they quote it is when it backs up something they wish to imprint, but they most often misquote or outright try and change the meaning of God's Word.

I pray daily that another RC will reject that cult and find salvation in the name of Jesus. Their devotion to their mythological mary keeps their minds and hearts bound. Their obvious fear of rejection/excommunication by their cult makes them swallow the lies of the day! Indoctrination is a difficult thing to overcome, when it starts from day 1! Their superstitions are all they have...

[Iscool]

Do you think you worship the same God as is worshipped and adored by the Jews ?

Of course...I know I do...And yet the muzlims don't...

No doubt it's confusing to a Catholic...While most Catholics don't read or own a bible some at the top do...Even historically...So they know this stuff is true but they don't teach it to you guys...

Jesus offered his kingdom to those Jews back before his Crucifixion...A Jewish kingdom for the 12 tribes of Israel...They rejected and killed Jesus...Even after Jesus was Crucified, that offer was still standing...They still rejected it...

To make Israel jealous, Jesus came to the Gentiles and offered them/us eternal life...At the same time Jesus stuck a mental block into Israel so they couldn't see it all...They are blinded...Although they worship the Father of the Trinity they can't see the Trinity...

Muzlims on the other hand are not blinded...They reject the God of the Creation and the scripture because the God of Creation IS the Trinity...They willfully reject the gospel and Jesus Christ...

It's as if they don't worship anyone at all...Their god doesn't exist...They of course are no different than atheists in the eyes of God and Christians...They are NOT our brothers...

[ealgeone]

>>The observant reader will note, Allah is none of the above. <<

Allah is the Arabic word for God, as El/Elohim are the Hebrew words for God.

Irrelevant and it conveys a lack on your part of understanding God as revealed in the Word.

>>So the question still remains....do catholics and muslims adore the same God??<<

Question already answered: among nonChristians both the Jews, Samaritans, and Moslems profess to worship and adore the God of Abraham that Catholics worship and adore.

Then I have no idea who catholics are worshipping based on your answer.

Christians do not worship the same God as the muslims.

I'll type it real slow so all can keep up.....

Jehovah and Allah are not, nor have they ever, nor will they ever be the same.

Are you saying Jehovah and Allah are the same? It's either a yes or no answer.

[af_vet_1981]

Do catholics also recognize muslims as "elder" brethren?

No.

[WVKayaker]

I understand your reply as another “no”

I don't know what you have been smoking, but it apparently alters your understanding in reverse!

I AM a Jew, grafted into the family of God. Which is not something that a Roman Catholic can say. They are grafted into their organization and fear that they may not make it out the other side without somebody lighting candles in purgatory (more mythology!).

No need to reply. I know all that you want to offer is FUD. I am secure, I understand, and I never doubt my salvation. God promised me.

Your group is too far removed from the reality of God's economy.

[ealgeone]

Muzlims on the other hand are not blinded...They reject the God of the Creation and the scripture because the God of Creation IS the Trinity...They willfully reject the gospel and Jesus Christ...

It's as if they don't worship anyone at all...Their god doesn't exist...They of course are no different than atheists in the eyes of God and Christians...They are NOT our brothers...

You know, I don't know why this is difficult for catholics to understand. But, I guess they are so wedded to the ccc being more authoritative than the Word.

This is one of the many reasons we reject "tradition" that is so embraced by roman catholicism.

[af_vet_1981]

Are you saying Jehovah and Allah are the same? It's either a yes or no answer.

No. One is an incorrect English attempt to translate the Hebrew name for the One God given to Moses while the other is the English translation of the Arabic word for God which literally translations "The God," referring to the One and only One God, the God of Abraham.

[af_vet_1981]

I AM a Jew, grafted into the family of God.

Do you mean you were born a Jew or you believe you became a spiritual Jew later in your life ?

[MHGinTN]

Are you unable to post without insulting someone? Apparently not.

The God Who IS, is my God. His name is I AM. He is also the God of the Jews, for He chose them. The god of Islam is satan, as evidenced by the attributes of his followers, following a murderer from the start. IF you believe Jesus IS God With us, then the same God of Judaism is the I AM of Christianity. There, now you have no excuse for continuing to ask a question answered more than once.

[ealgeone]

I knew you couldn't do it.

Well, we're left with the notion that catholics worship and adore the same god as muslims.

To be clear though....Christians do not worship or adore anything regarding Islam.

We follow God, Who is the same in both Old and New Testaments.

He does not change.

He is the great I AM.

[ealgeone]

I've noticed logic and reasoning are not requirements to be catholic.

However, circular logic and the ability to redefine commonly accepted terms are highly valued.