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To: vladimir998

[[No. Adam and Eve were created on the last of the six days of creation]]

Again- God would have had to keep adam and eve alive for a couple billion years or 1000 years (where the bible states 1 day = 1000 years if this is what some claim days t mean in creation)

[[Also, I would shy away from the term “soul death” if I were you]]

There’s no need for me to stay away from it because the bible is clear about what kind of death happened before fall, and it wasn’t soul death- plants which have no soul died before the fall, those with souls did not

The term the bible uses is “nephesh.” it means soul- there was no soul death before the fall

[[Also, since Adam and Eve were created whole and entire as adults rather than as infants in the whom and were not afflicted by time with age until they sinned there is no reason to think they could not have lived for billions of years if God so wished.]]

https://answersingenesis.org/days-of-creation/24-hours-plain-as-day/

Yes there is reason to think God didn’t infact keep them alive for billions of years

[[The top Hebrew scholars all agree that the writer of Genesis 1 intended the word day to mean 24 hours. If they all agree . . . then why can’t we?]]


48 posted on 11/27/2015 8:54:59 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434

“Again- God would have had to keep adam and eve alive for a couple billion years or 1000 years (where the bible states 1 day = 1000 years if this is what some claim days t mean in creation)”

1) God can do whatever He wants.

2) If a “day” is something other than 24 hours, then it can be whatever duration God wants it to be.

“There’s no need for me to stay away from it because the bible is clear about what kind of death happened before fall, and it wasn’t soul death- plants which have no soul died before the fall, those with souls did not”

1) All living creatures have souls - they just don’t all have rational souls. Only human beings have rational souls.

2) There was no death of human beings before the Fall for there were only two human beings other than Adam and Eve. Belief in pre-adamite people (Preadamism) is a heresy. Don’t embrace it. The Bible tells us that Adam was the first biological man—in Genesis 1–5; Deuteronomy 32:8; 1 Chronicles 1:1; Luke 3:38; Romans 5:14; 1 Corinthians 15:22, 45; 1 Timothy 2:13; and Jude 1:14.

“The term the bible uses is “nephesh.” it means soul- there was no soul death before the fall”

There’s no “soul death” ever for any human being for there is judgment after death of the body. That means there is a living soul after the body dies. Death = the separation of the body from the soul. Some ignorant people mistake some Biblical references to persons (called souls) as actual literal references to souls rather than complete persons.

“Yes there is reason to think God didn’t infact keep them alive for billions of years”

There might be, but a “day’ doesn’t have to be billions of years. You keep ignoring that point.

“The top Hebrew scholars all agree that the writer of Genesis 1 intended the word day to mean 24 hours. If they all agree . . . then why can’t we?”

1) Not all “top Hebrew scholars” actually agree on that.

2) Some of the top Hebrew scholars in the world don’t believe in Christ. Should we believe them?


54 posted on 11/28/2015 6:24:59 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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