Posted on 04/17/2016 4:10:20 PM PDT by Lera
See #59 and of course will pray for your son May I know his first name or initials?
>>And a lot of Christians miss out on the excitement of knowing Christ is returning soon because they never think about it or pooh pooh any suggestion that His return is imminent
For every Christian who lived before us, “Christ is coming soon” was realized immediately after death. We may die before he comes again and a thousand generations after us could die before he comes again.
So, it is better to live a life of joy and contentment, rather than one of apprehension that some great tribulation may swallow you up or that you will be saved from it at the last minute.
The excitement of the mature Christian is that death is conquered, salvation is secure, and that you will one day stand face to face with your Savior, even though you will probably have to die first.
His name is Kevin.
I agree we need to always keep watch. We certainly do not want to be like the wicked servant or the foolish virgins.
Peace,
Rich
There is no apprehension abou the end times only joy and excitement about the soon appearing of my Lord Paul said to comfort one another with these words not scare the living day lights out of each other
But it is true that the lngest any of us will have to wait before Christ returns is on the order of 80 years
Either way I’ll be home soon!
>>Either way I’ll be home soon!
That’s my attitude too. That’s why I think that a preacher should only preach on the end times once a year. Leave the rest of the year for the important stuff.
Rich, Here it is:
Acts 1:6 So when they had come together, they were asking Him, saying, “Lord, is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority; 8 but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.”…
I have always interpreted this as a specific answer to a specific question from a specific group of people. Jesus knew that it was going to be another 2000 years until the final dispersion of the Jews was to be over, and He knew that wasn’t going to start until 40 year hence. Jesus also knew that He had already introduced the Doctrine of Immanence of the Return, and that He was going to have Paul reinforce that, as a way of encouraging believers to always be ready. So He tells them that is not for them, specifically to know these things.
If this were to be universally applicable statement, then Revelation 12:1-2 would not have been included. Note, that the astronomical configuration noted there can only be recognized using star charting software on digital computers, so it was pretty clear that this would remain “symbolic” up until we got close to the End of Days. YHWH really has this all worked out. Trust Him!
I’ll pray for you son and his mates. You should know that there are special Angels assigned to watch over submariners. I know this from experience.
I disagree. The God of the Bible gave all of us His prophesies in order to understand the times we are in...and to escape God’s coming judgment. You can understand if you will understand.
The Bible clearly speaks of 2 world-wide regatherings of the Jews. 1st regathering in unbelief (Ezekiel 20), 2nd regathering in faith (Isaiah 11-12). These are separate and distinct from the regional gatherings of the past. It is anti-Semitic and demonic to deny the clear evidence of God’s Word and the miracle of Israel
>> It is anti-Semitic and demonic to deny the clear evidence of God’s Word and the miracle of Israel
It is childish to play the racist card and even worse to accuse people of being demonic. God’s word is misinterpreted by people like you and the latest and greatest “miracle of Israel” occurred on the Cross.
Proof texters like you can always find where “the bible clearly speaks” of whatever you cherry-pick from Scripture. But, you have to ignore so much to put your bumper sticker theology together.
This stuff is the doctrinal equivalent to the cat on the keyboard. It's why confusion reigns. The experts who come up with all these weird schemes are like the pols who pass laws "for the people", knowing and intending that their laws (doctrines) will create new problems for them to $olve. GOPe or GODe, same thing. The Establishment is a house built upon sand.
The structure of Elohim and elementary particles appears to derives from the Universe starting as three books, or spheres, a long time ago. It is based on the natural numbers, which require twelve axioms to define them. All this is captured in the Three Patriarchs and the 12 Sons of Israel. Grouping the Sons of Israel by their birth mothers in their birth order, we get the organization of the 12 dimensions of the Universe. But that is for another time and another book.
Or another (bigger) transfer station. Of making many books there is no end.
Jesus had two lineages from David. A legal one through his adopted father, and a genetic one through his mother. The matriarchal linage is important because Sin entered the world through the male, Adam's, line. So to be born sinless, Jesus had to have the Holy Spirit as his father.
Tribal lineage/heir to the throne = patrilineal descent. Joseph = son of David. Sarah was ninety; Elizabeth was also "too old", so some sort of intervention into the normal system was required to bring forth a child. Not a big deal then with a virgin birth and Joseph-as-father being simultaneously true. Medical science succeeded with a secular method back in 1978.
So to be born sinless, Jesus had to have the Holy Spirit as his father.
David and Paul had the right concept. (e.g. Psalm 32, 51; Romans 4)
Nothing amiss with the genealogies as-is. [Son] of God through David via Nathan. That is, the character and heart and soul of David. Solomon turned his heart away. His heart wasn't perfect with God as was David's.
The very next chapter in Luke starts off with Jesus spirited off to the wilderness, and being addressed as the Son of God. Having the heart of his father David, he didn't get tripped up by the devil's appeal to ego.
Matthew's genealogy [with a "begat" after every father's name] runs forward from Abraham to David through Solomon to Joseph. No "begat" with Joseph's name, because technically there was a different method. No sloppiness with the details, but let the experts get in there and out comes a man-god. Hence no library is big enough to contain all their writings. Like deciphering Obamacare - just have to take it on faith.
Son of God = heart (character) of God = heart of David = Son of David = spiritual heir to the throne (embodiment of Torah - the perfect king, judging righteous judgment)
Son of Man = "human being" = physical (patrilineal) descent from David through Solomon = physical heir to the throne
Joseph son of David was a merciful and a righteous man like his father David, intending to quietly deal with Mary's seeming transgression. He had to be informed in a dream that all was well, but he didn't need the dream to be kind and loving. It came naturally. His son also.
Amazing what gets missed when Joseph *son of David* is relegated to obscurity as a token head of household.
In any case, all the above resolves down to the simple meaning:
Matthew 22:34-40
34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
David had it right down to the basics. Poured his heart out. Praised God for His mercy and loving kindness. The character of God was his template. His soul was his livelihood; his livelihood his soul. David wanted to get things just right, which meant knowing that God desires mercy not sacrifice, knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. No wonder the Messiah is the son (embodiment) of David. No wonder the experts didn't recognize him. No wonder history will repeat.
If you choose to release the name of the “Anti-Christ Jewish Messiah” great, if not, as I said before, that’s okay too.
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Mashiach ben Yossef
Ezekiel, I read you comments, and I looked at your home page. It looks to me as if you are going to be OK, but just to be sure:
Romans 10
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach):
9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.
Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1100). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.
1 Thessalonians 4
13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (p. 1146). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.
1 Thessalonians 5
1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you.
2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.
3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.
4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.
5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober.
7 For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night.
8 But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation.
9 For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
11 Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing.
Nelson, Thomas (2009-02-18). Holy Bible, New King James Version (NKJV) (pp. 1146-1147). Thomas Nelson. Kindle Edition.
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Yeshua’s return has never been imminent.
Paul listed things in his letters to the Thessalonians that had to happen before Yeshua could return.
None of the things Paul listed has happened yet. (the total moral falling away, and the making known of the Man of Sin)
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>> “4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.” <<
The Thessalonians knew that Yeshua would return to resurrect his bride at the Day of Trumpets, 42 months after the making known of the Man of Sin.
The Thessalonians, like the apostles, kept Yehova’s appointed times, and thus were fully aware of the particular day of the year on which he had to come. The day that no man knew of before it showed up in the sunset, Tishri 1.
OK. Luckily all of this will be resolved quickly. Sort of like the Presidential Election. ;-)
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Yep, in less than 8 years.
So I should listen to you and not the Bible? Got it. No one denies the greatest work of Jesus Christ on the cross. That is a red herring. People like you are the reason we are in this post-modern insanity. The God of this world has blinded your eyes to the clear and evident truth of the regathering of Israel. Enjoy your blissful ignorance. BTW...I have a graduate degree in Theological Studies and and have done post graduate work. There is no cherry-picking, only scholarly reasoning which you do not like.
>> People like you are the reason we are in this post-modern insanity. The God of this world has blinded your eyes to the clear and evident truth of the regathering of Israel. Enjoy your blissful ignorance.
LOL. Thanks for permission.
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