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Pope Francis Betrays Christianity By Romanticizing Poverty
The Federalist ^ | May 16, 2016 | Maureen Mullarkey

Posted on 05/16/2016 7:25:41 AM PDT by detective

Writing in Forbes last year, Steve Moore, a Catholic, asked: “What is the theological case for telling those in the poorest villages of the planet where people still live at subsistence levels, that they have a moral obligation to save the planet by staying poor and using less fossil fuels, less energy and electricity?”

Three months later, Vatican Radio ran the telltale headline: “Pope: Christians Should Kneel Before the Poor.” The article cited Pope Francis’ assertion that “poverty is the great teaching” Jesus gave us, and that “the poor are not a burden but a resource.” He capped his homily with, “How I wish that Christians could kneel in veneration when a poor person enters the church.”

His comment was a red flag that went largely unnoticed. Only a handful of Catholic bloggers remarked on it. They are sensitive to Francis’ tendency not to genuflect at those sacred moments during Mass that traditional rubrics require it. Yet he kneels to wash—and kiss—the feet of juvenile offenders or women in a Buenos Aires maternity hospital. Why not at Mass? Have the poor become surrogates for the Eucharist? And what are we to make of elevating poverty from a condition to be addressed to a teaching to be cherished?

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; epa; globalwarminghoax; popefrancis; poverty; religiousleft; romancatholicism
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To: Mrs. Don-o
While Bergoglio has added ore than enough errors and heresies of his own, all he has to do to be known as a heretic is just to repeat the ones from Vatican-2, which he ost certainly as done.

All You Need to Know About Bergolgio

41 posted on 05/16/2016 4:15:20 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I don't know about you. But I consider the following, in Pope Francis' apostolic exhortation, " EVANGELII GAUDIIUM" to be formal heresy:

We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked, for “the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable” (Rom 11:29). The Church, which shares with Jews an important part of the sacred Scriptures, looks upon the people of the covenant and their faith as one of the sacred roots of her own Christian identity (cf. Rom 11:16-18). As Christians, we cannot consider Judaism as a foreign religion; nor do we include the Jews among those called to turn from idols and to serve the true God (cf. 1 Thes 1:9). With them, we believe in the one God who acts in history, and with them we accept his revealed word.

Notice that Francis attempts to speak in the name of the Catholic Church by his repeated use of the word "We".

42 posted on 05/16/2016 4:16:36 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SGNA; ebb tide

To each of you I ask:

Who was the last valid pope?

Who is your bishop?


43 posted on 05/16/2016 4:22:19 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: detective
People ask what is the unifying characteristic of societies that go communist.

Why does one glorify the peasant lifestyle with a ruling lord in charge and the other rejects it?

The answer is Romanticism.

The communist wants everyone, save a select few, to be a peasant, wear quaint clothes, live in small picturesque villages and tug their forelock as the lord, who provides all, rides by.

The capitalist wants everyone to be middle class or higher, own a small (or large business) if they wish or just have a job at one of those businesses. They should live where they want, dress as they wish and bow to no one.

The communist is the medieval romance. The capitalist is the garage workshop.

44 posted on 05/16/2016 4:31:47 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The last valid pope was the last pope who was NOT a heretic, Pope Pius XII.

One does not need a 'bishop'. and I make no recommendations. If one can find a valid and good non-Vatican-2 CATHOLIC priest or bishop, then all the better.

All one needs is Christ and to hold whole and entire the Catholic Faith which he has bestowed upon us, upon His Church, until He comes to relieve us.

Luke 18:8 I say to you, that he will quickly revenge them. But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?

HOLD UNTIL RELIEVED.

45 posted on 05/16/2016 5:51:02 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Look at all the people on this thread alone who have suffered an assault on their faith from the heresies run rampant and stated that they have either left the Catholic Church or are planning to because they think that Dr. Frankenstein creation of Vatican-2 is the real entity and they can see that that entity and those running it are false.

Yet you and others keeps insisting that all is well.

You are aiding in driving them into the arms of the protestants or worse.

And when those outside the Faith come on these threads to bash the Catholic Church, you deniers give them a pass and instead attack the authentic Catholic teaching presented by traditional Roman Catholics.

46 posted on 05/16/2016 5:51:03 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: SGNA

You say I keep insisting that all is well? Sorry, you have me confused with somebody else.


47 posted on 05/16/2016 6:13:24 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: SGNA

But who is *your* bishop?


48 posted on 05/16/2016 6:14:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I have none. Why do you keep asking?


49 posted on 05/16/2016 7:36:29 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“...there has not been a valid papacy since 1958, but I do not find it convincing.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The apostles creed states that there will be the resurrection of the body.

Mr. Ratzinger claimed to be pope while holding that there is no resurrection of the body.

Is he free of heresy?


50 posted on 05/16/2016 8:30:01 PM PDT by Repent and Believe ("...to neglect to confound evil men...is no less a sin than to encourage them." Pope St. Felix III)
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To: Corky Ramirez

Moses led the Hebrews in the wilderness for forty years. It would be worth our time to invest searching for the Church right for us. Let the Bible be your guide. Some Catholics would have you to believe the Catholic Church is the destination but it is God that is the destination.


51 posted on 05/16/2016 8:35:51 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
According to Ed Peters (canon lawyer, runs the "In the Light of the Law" blog) Pope Francis does not meet the fairly stringent canonical criteria for heresy because he does not state outright dissent in a clear and unambiguous way.

Which is just one more example of the multitudes of things that RCS disagree on, which the magisterium does not settle, while RCs promote it. Another example is that RCs debate whether papal elections are infallible .

52 posted on 05/16/2016 8:37:55 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: SGNA
You are aiding in driving them into the arms of the protestants or worse.

Oh dear me, is there anything worse? Do tell.

53 posted on 05/16/2016 9:03:14 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: cloudmountain
Obama would make sin acceptable and good works sinful. :o)

LOL. That would be comical, except it is absolutely TRUE.

54 posted on 05/16/2016 9:13:10 PM PDT by Mark17 (I traded my shackles for a glorious song. I'm free, praise the Lord, free at last.)
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To: Repent and Believe

Pope Benedict XVI would never say that there is no resurrection of the body.

Where did you get that misinformation? Or did you misinterpret something?


55 posted on 05/16/2016 9:26:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SGNA
The last valid pope was the last pope who was NOT a heretic, Pope Pius XII.

So much for that "the gates of hell will not prevail against it" claim Catholics are so fond of making.

56 posted on 05/16/2016 9:53:10 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: BipolarBob

True! At least those of us who left Roman Catholicism REMAINED or became GENUINE Christians. We believe in Jesus Christ and follow the tenets of the Christian faith as taught in Holy Scripture - the same faith of the Apostles. You’d think that would be okay seeing as the alternative could have been atheism.


57 posted on 05/16/2016 9:59:14 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: daniel1212; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums
Another example is that RCs debate whether papal elections are infallible .

No, you misunderstand. Infallibility is a charism of protection for the Church bestowed by the Holy Ghost upon a valid pope to never in issuing a solemn public universally binding teaching on faith or morals, proclaimed as such, to ever be in error.

A papal conclave to elect a pope has no guarantee that the electors will choose the best and holiest candidate. If the electors fast, pray and sincerely ask for guidance of the Holy Ghost in the matter, then the possibilities considerably improve! If they don't, then......

What we are discussing among ourselves is whether the person elected, was even a Catholic, that is held the Catholic Faith whole and entire, in the first place. If he was not a Catholic but instead formally held heresy, then the election is null and void. One cannot be the earthly Head (Christ being the real Head) of the Mystical Body of Christ, if one is not even a member of it.

Those of us who see that the wolves are not sheep nor shepherds recognize that this applies to all the heretics 'elected' since 1958 and the start of the non-Catholic Vatican-2 'church'.

It's a matter of Divine Law expressly codified in the following Apostolic Constitution of which I'll provide a few excerpts:

Cum ex Apostolatus Officio" - Apostolic Constitution of Pope Paul IV, 15th February 1559 -(Roman Bullarium Vol. IV. Sec. I, pp. 354-357)

6. In addition, [by this Our Constitution, which is to remain valid in perpetuity We enact, determine, decree and define:-]

that if ever at any time it shall appear that any Bishop, even if he be acting as an Archbishop, Patriarch or Primate; or any Cardinal of the aforesaid Roman Church, or, as has already been mentioned, any legate, or even the Roman Pontiff, prior to his promotion or his elevation as Cardinal or Roman Pontiff, has deviated from the Catholic Faith or fallen into some heresy:

(i) the promotion or elevation, even if it shall have been uncontested and by the unanimous assent of all the Cardinals, shall be null, void and worthless;

(ii) it shall not be possible for it to acquire validity (nor for it to be said that it has thus acquired validity) through the acceptance of the office, of consecration, of subsequent authority, nor through possession of administration, nor through the putative enthronement of a Roman Pontiff, or Veneration, or obedience accorded to such by all, nor through the lapse of any period of time in the foregoing situation;

(iii) it shall not be held as partially legitimate in any way;

(iv) to any so promoted to be Bishops, or Archbishops, or Patriarchs, or Primates or elevated as Cardinals, or as Roman Pontiff, no authority shall have been granted, nor shall it be considered to have been so granted either in the spiritual or the temporal domain;

(v) each and all of their words, deeds, actions and enactments, howsoever made, and anything whatsoever to which these may give rise, shall be without force and shall grant no stability whatsoever nor any right to anyone;

(vi) those thus promoted or elevated shall be deprived automatically, and without need for any further declaration, of all dignity, position, honour, title, authority, office and power.

58 posted on 05/16/2016 10:34:51 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: BipolarBob
Probably! But there are enough problems in the world to go around these days!

Stick around. As we sort things out among ourselves, watch and learn.

59 posted on 05/16/2016 10:34:52 PM PDT by SGNA
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To: Repent and Believe; Mrs. Don-o
The apostles creed states that there will be the resurrection of the body. Mr. Ratzinger claimed to be pope while holding that there is no resurrection of the body. Is he free of heresy?

Here is the citation if you need it. He denies the bodily resurrection of the just at the Last Judgment. They will merely "be remembered in a special way in the ind of God". It's listed after he chips away at Our Lord's actual and Bodily Resurrection.

Deniers-of-the-Resurrection

60 posted on 05/16/2016 10:34:52 PM PDT by SGNA
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