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To: tjd1454

Um, no: “ Matthew 24:29-31 is a clear, unanswerable refutation of the pre-trib rapture teaching from our Lord Himself. “ The question posed to Jesus was specific. He answered specifically regarding The END of the Age, at the end of The Great Tribulation. Take a study of the differences between the Temple Discourse found in Luke and the Olivet Discourse given that same evening, after a few asked a specific question over what Jesus brought out in the Temple Discourse.


116 posted on 05/21/2016 2:49:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN
He answered specifically regarding The END of the Age, at the end of The Great Tribulation.

Here again you are in error. You are forced once again to twist the clear meaning of the text to conform to pre-trib Dispensationalism.

This is what the text is saying: Jesus "answered specifically regarding the END of the Age." This much you got correct. But here comes your subtle twist: i.e., Jesus actually meant "the end of the Great Tribulation."

False! If Jesus meant to be speaking of "the end of the Tribulation" he would have specified exactly that. But he did not. He was replying to a question about "THE END OF THE AGE."

Now as a pre-trib Dispensationalist you are doubtlessly familiar with the meaning of the term "Age". This would be (according to Dispensationalism) the Church Age.

Jesus was speaking about the eschatological events that would occur in the leading up to the end of the Church Age. There is NO justification for twisting this to mean he was instead only referring to the last part of some 7 year tribulation period!

Thus, once again, Jesus' teaching is clear: His coming for the saints will occur after the events of the period of tribulation, when He will "gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other."

The teaching of Jesus on His coming for His saints, together with that of the Apostle Paul, are clear.

121 posted on 05/21/2016 3:14:12 PM PDT by tjd1454
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To: MHGinTN
Matthew 24:29-31 is a clear, unanswerable refutation of the pre-trib rapture

Matthew 24 does not talk about the rapture at all. Scofield's note in verse 39 says it is the second coming, not the rapture. The one's taken in verse 40 and 41 are taken away to judgment (they knew not until the flood came and took them all away. Verse 39) but in the rapture, the one's taken go to meet the Lord in the air. Also Paul says; behold I show you a mystery. (1 Corithians 15:51) This was something new; not spoken of before in scriptures.
183 posted on 05/21/2016 7:30:02 PM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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