Posted on 11/25/2016 3:22:25 PM PST by marshmallow
Never talk with the devil, he is a "liar" and "swindler", "seeking our ruin" and for "this will be thrown into the abyss." If "we open our hearts", as Jesus asks us, and we do not go our way, we will have "joy and salvation."
Vatican City (AsiaNews) - Eternal damnation "is not a torture chamber," but distance for ever from God, from the "God who gives happiness". But if "we open our hearts," as Jesus asks us, and we do not go our way, we will have "the joy and salvation” said Pope Francis at Mass this morning in Santa Marta, inspired by the reading from the Book of Revelation. In the last two days of the liturgical year, in fact, the Church fulfills the reflection on the end of the world.
The Pope’s homily focused on the day’s reading from the Book of Revelation that describes how the angel seizes the serpent, chains it up and throws it into the abyss which is then locked and sealed. He said the serpent or devil is thrown into the abyss “so that it would no longer lead the nations astray” because it is the seducer. “He is a liar and what’s more is the father of lies, he generates lies and is a trickster. He makes you believe that if you eat this apple you will be like a God. He sells it to you like this and you buy it and in the end he tricks you, deceives you and ruins your life. ‘But father, what can we do to avoid being deceived by the devil?’ Jesus teaches us: never converse with the devil. One does not converse with him. What did Jesus do with the devil? He chased him away, he asked his name but did not hold a.......
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So he’s consistently wrong?
I have always believed that hell is just an absence of God. Nothing could be worse than that. We really have no idea how much we depend upon God’s protection and mercy. Those who shun Him here are only getting what they ask for...no God.
Hell is place where the God who is everywhere isn’t.
Everything good comes from God. Hell is where there is no mercy, compassion, kindness, understanding or sympathy. Not because it is a place of punishment but because God is not there. It is the place that unbelievers desire to be. Separated from God. He gives them their wish
Rev 21:8
8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars — their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
NIV
What does this mean, Frankie?
Much as love is described as fire in much of our art, the distance from the love of God our creator would be an undying painful burn.
Being pope sounds fun. He gets to pull doctrines out of his bottom whenever he wishes. Like Joseph Smith without all the ladies.
This alleged “pope” sounds more like a fascist false prophet, to me!
It is torture of the worst kind. I would rather be whipped than go through it again.
There is something wrong with this Pope.
>It is the place that unbelievers desire to be<
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I doubt that there is anyone who desires to be in hell, although there are those who already live in a hell on earth.
I don’t buy it. It isn’t biblical. It isn’t consistent with Catholic church history, it isn’t consistent with justice, and it isn’t with logic
In fact, imagine a world without hope...that is the world without God.
Dante got it right...
“Through me you pass into the city of woe:Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.
Justice the founder of my fabric moved:
To rear me was the task of Power divine,
Supremest Wisdom, and primeval Love.
Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I endure.
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.”
You beat me to it. Of course some would respond:
“Well, that’s not a ‘literal’ fiery lake with ‘literal’ burning sulfur...” (shake my head in amazement at the denial)
Eternal damnation “is a torture chamber,”
You’ll believe it when you get there ....
He needs to read the teachings of his own Church.
“Eternal damnation is not a torture chamber. That’s a description of this second death: it is a death. And those who will not be received in the Kingdom of God, it’s because they have not drawn close to the Lord.
“Eternal damnation is not a torture chamber.” Nah, nevermind what Our Blessed Lord said about Gehenna, sulfur, etc.
“Eternal damnation is continually distancing oneself from God. It is the worst pain, an unsatisfied heart, a heart that was created to find God but which, out of arrogance and self-confidence, distances itself from God.”
What he is referring to is nothing new and a common misinterpretation - you know the sources - the WORST form of suffering is to be distanced from God. That most probably is true. Hmmm...
Why then did Our Blessed Lord (by Gospel accounts) speak of Hell three times more often than (by Gospel accounts) He is quoted to be speaking of Heaven?
He so is a false prophet. I only wish that everyday he opens his vulgar mouth that more open their eyes to that fact. Hell is a burning lake of fire where you will not be consumed but wish you could be.
I’m with you here - I have been taught this, and I believe it wholly.
I know what things look like when God is not present or revered. We get things like that woman beating that baby. We get boardrooms full of people talking calmly about euthanizing babies and the elderly.
That is hell.
> “ Eternal damnation “is not a torture chamber,” but distance for ever from God”
Sounds like a perfect excuse for pagans, agnostics, and atheists to use as they seek to be forever apart from God.
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