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Posted on 02/01/2017 6:49:28 PM PST by ebb tide
What an easy religion. Why even bother with the Ten Commandments?
Sabbath means ‘rest’, and Christ became our sabbath/rest, and we Honor Him every day not just one day.
You are STILL a Catholic. Once baptized a Catholic you are always a Catholic. The mark on your soul does not change or disappear.
I certainly have been entertained by the workings of Luther, by some prolific posting Catholics on this site. Some of them view Luther worse than the devil himself.. And yet they nail to the Roman wall all manner of anti=pope complaints... I am trying to understand why what Luther did made him a heretic and what gets posted about the present pope is considered 'catholic'. It is like splitting hairs.
And I don’t remember any footnote at the bottom of the tablet saying “*Don’t overfocus on these”.
IMHO, the Bible was given to us so that we may know how God thinks; the 10 Commandments were given to us so we may know what God expects from us. There are really no gray areas.
I’m have no idea why a Pope would say something like this, in essence, telling people to IGNORE the Word of God...
....it sounds like something Satan would say and very well may be. I’ve never been comfortable with this Pope; there’s just something ‘off’ about him.......
I appreciate your comment.
What I seek is truth. When I look at His Word I find Him telling me something different.
“And in the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made.
And God blessed the seventh day and set it apart...”
“Remember _the_ Sabbath day, to set it apart. Six days you labor, and shall do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of YHVH your god.”
I think it’s a question of which god you serve. Do you honor Him and His ways or man’s teaching.
There’s a difference between The “Antichrist” as in an individual’s name, and of the “Antichrist” used more like a noun - maybe due to the inherent difficulty in precise translation- but is more apparent in context where Paul’s description is used as a test of who or what is Antichrist.
Not just the pope of that time, but his adherents too, are labeled the “kingdom of the Antichrist” for setting the Pope up as a god who shall not be questioned, people who put those who disagree or question to death, ... and for failing to teach Christ paid for our sins in full.
We’re all, including Luther and all Popes, beggars before God, with nothing to offer to justify our own salvation, except for what Christ himself gave us by paying our debts on the cross.
Anyway, the context:
“The Levitical high priest was the chief priest by divine right, and yet godless high priests were not to be obeyed, as Jeremiah and other prophets dissented from the high priests, the apostles dissented from Caiaphas and did not have to obey them.
39] Now, it is manifest that the Roman pontiffs, with their adherents, defend [and practice] godless doctrines and godless services. And the marks [all the vices] of Antichrist plainly agree with the kingdom of the Pope and his adherents. For Paul, in describing Antichrist to the Thessalonians, calls him 2 Thess. 2:3-4: an adversary of Christ, who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God. He speaks therefore of one ruling in the Church, not of heathen kings, and he calls this one the adversary of Christ, because he will devise doctrine conflicting with the Gospel, and will assume to himself divine authority.
40] Moreover, it is manifest, in the first place, that the Pope rules in the Church, and by the pretext of ecclesiastical authority and of the ministry has established for himself this kingdom. For he assigns as a pretext these words: I will give to thee the keys. Secondly, the doctrine of the Pope conflicts in many ways with the Gospel, and [thirdly] the Pope assumes to himself divine authority in a threefold manner. First, because he takes to himself the right to change the doctrine of Christ and services instituted by God, and wants his own doctrine and his own services to be observed as divine; secondly, because he takes to himself the power not only of binding and loosing in this life, but also the jurisdiction over souls after this life; thirdly, because the Pope does not want to be judged by the Church or by any one, and puts his own authority ahead of the decision of Councils and the entire Church. But to be unwilling to be judged by the Church or by any one is to make oneself God. Lastly, these errors so horrible, and this impiety, he defends with the greatest cruelty, and puts to death those dissenting.
41] This being the case, all Christians ought to beware of becoming partakers of the godless doctrine, blasphemies, and unjust cruelty of the Pope. On this account they ought to desert and execrate the Pope with his adherents as the kingdom of Antichrist; just as Christ has commanded, Matt. 7:15: Beware of false prophets. And Paul commands that godless teachers should be avoided and execrated as cursed, Gal. 1:8; Titus 3:10. And he says, 2 Cor. 6:14: Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers; for what communion hath light with darkness?
42] To dissent from the agreement of so many nations and to be called schismatics is a grave matter. But divine authority commands all not to be allies and defenders of impiety and unjust cruelty.
On this account our consciences are sufficiently excused; for the errors of the kingdom of the Pope are manifest. And Scripture with its entire voice exclaims that these errors are a teaching of demons and of Antichrist. 43] The idolatry in the profanation of the masses is manifest, which, besides other faults [besides being altogether useless] are shamelessly applied to most shameful gain [and trafficking]. 44] The doctrine of repentance has been utterly corrupted by the Pope and his adherents. For they teach that sins are remitted because of the worth of our works. Then they bid us doubt whether the remission takes place. They nowhere teach that sins are remitted freely for Christ’s sake, and that by this faith we obtain remission of sins. “
Woe to those so-called Lutheran denominations as well that have erred as badly as any pope in their politically correct effort to remake God in their image or substitute a social justice idol. There’s a lot of Antichrist to go around.
Lutherans accept divorce and “remarriage”. So please don’t tell me that Luther sought to “save the Church”.
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That’s a very strong statement. A complete generalization because the LCMS doesn’t hold with divorce and remarriage except in the case of adultery, so you’re lying through your teeth there.
Then again, you’re a liar from the beginning just like your daddy.
Let’s see what God himself has to say, shall we?
To quote Jesus: “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”
Oh look; God allows remarriage in the case of sexual immorality.
Looks like one of us has the Bible on his side and it ain’t you, Princess.
Aww, whassamatter little man? Can’t stand that I caught you in your nasty little fib and so you have to change the subject?
Sorry, but no dice. You lied through your teeth at the start of this flame war; your credibility is zilch.
You claimed that Lucifer was my co-author. Well, like Lucifer, one of us was a liar at the beginning.
And, guess what, it was you.
Enjoy!
It would probably be a real good move to expunge Francis out of the Roman Catholic church, since hes already done it himself a number of times.
Just make it official so the denomination can move on.
Justify Francis by taking Luther out of context. Won’t work.
http://jpserrano.com/2011/11/16/sin-boldly-did-luther-really-mean-it-the-way-we-use-it-today/
Hidden in his projection onto his critics is what could very well be self analysis, in those first few paragraphs, by the pope.
If so, it is a sad thing that happened to him... if so.
>>the High Priest Aaron in the Book of Exodus, who built a golden calf
It’s always interesting how Aaron gets stuck with the blame for that escapade while Korah, the Pharaoh’s treasurer, is hidden in obscurity along with the other fallen angels.
I certainly have been entertained by the workings of Luther, by some prolific posting Catholics on this site. Some of them view Luther worse than the devil himself.. And yet they nail to the Roman wall all manner of anti=pope complaints... I am trying to understand why what Luther did made him a heretic and what gets posted about the present pope is considered ‘catholic’. It is like splitting hairs.
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You said it, my friend.
And I don’t know. Spiritual pride? Trolls? Other?
I’ve seen some anti-Catholic sentiment on the board, but maybe I’m looking in the wrong place or I’m biased because so much of the bile is coming from Catholics.
Revelation 22 is clear about what separates the overcomers from those that refuse to love the Creator... Our Creator will do the judging.
The only named entities thus far that have been judged for eternal death is the devil and his fallen angels...
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And Judas </pedantic mode>.
I suppose we’ll see what happens during the Resurrection.
You’re right. This guy has proved to be the biggest threat to the faith in my lifetime. Follow the word of God, not the word of some misguided charlatan.
Or....he’s not really the pope.
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