How to Think About Luther?

Crisis Magazine ^ | July 12, 2017 | James Kalb

[Elsie]

It's printed in green.

[Elsie]

 

GPS stuff was a mere gleam in the eye of scientitists back in the 60's.

 

I merely had to deal with the diurnal shift in the ionosphere with the time delay/advance of the WWVB longwave timing signal.

[Elsie]

I can’t say much about the King, but I can refer folks to the Mayor!

https://moabcity.org/index.aspx?NID=184

[Elsie]

Halfway there!

[HLPhat]

>>There really is no reason why anyone is ignorant about it today

You on FR back in 1983 were ya?  Concordia Seward was a small campus.  If the subject had been in the curriculum - students would've talked about it.

Which part of "it wasn't in the curriculum" are you having trouble comprehending?

>>There really is no reason why anyone is ignorant about it today especially with the invention of the Internet 

Unless you happen to bring it up on the LCMS' Facebook Page... where they've ICONified Luther into representing the reformation and will block people who bring it up.

I don't seem to recall Jefferson's Virginia Act being part of LCMS curriculum either.

Evidently that whole "Truth is Great and will prevail" idea isn't too popular in Saint LouISIS these days.

>>Look, I really have no desire to continue on

Please provide a link to where I said everything Luther taught should be excluded?

The problem is ALL of what he “contributed” should be included along with the material the LCMS has indoctrinated children to regurgitate.

Its kinda like iconifying the Beach Boys without acknowledging the reality of how Brian Wilson went insane in the context of dropping acid while hosting the Charlie and the Manson Family as house guests.

Oops!

>>You won’t be able to convince me to stop admiring the many wonderful contributions Luther

Great, put him on a stamp then and ignore the wonderful contributions he made in the minds of whoever wrote Mein Kampf too while you’re at it.

[HLPhat]

>>I didn't get deep enough into GPS criteria, to know if earth curvature affected GPS arrival procedures.

The time dilation predicted by Special and General Relativity is an observable fact - engineered into practical examples like GPS and observable throughout the universe in association with various phenomena.

But that won't prevent metmom and her cohorts from trying to assume dominion over the faith of others with their fallible and uninspired 24x6 literalist opinions and modes of thinking.

Oddly, they also can't seem to answer whether or not the literal King of Tyre was literally in the literal Garden of Eden...

 

Ezek 28:11-13

11 The word of the Lord came to me: 12 "Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: 'This is what the Sovereign Lord says:

"'You were the model of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.

13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
NIV

...or...

Gen 3:23-24

23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east sidee of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.
NIV

...not, either.

[Mark17]

So, am I correct in assuming, that you agree with me, that the Pharisee should have added Luther's name to his list of disagreeables?
Praise God for Luther. 😀😆🙃😁😂😄

[Tennessee Nana]

Da number !!!

Youz has it !!!

[Mark17]

I merely had to deal with the diurnal shift in the ionosphere with the time delay/advance of the WWVB longwave timing signal.

Yep, I am a Ham radio operator too, so not only did I talk to airplanes on line of sight VHF and UHF, but I talked to Hams all over the world, so I had to know what freqs to use to do that. We used to love to talk to the female Hams in Japan, Korea, China and Russia.
I used to get my time hacks, from WWV, Fort Collins, CO, on 5, 10, 15, or 20 Megs. Now? I just look at my iPhone for accurate time information. 🙃😊👍

[Mark17]

Mom...
...you tryin' to make Catholic heads explode??

I made my entire family's catholic heads explode, when I left the Catholic Church. A couple of them have never gotten over it. Oh well, that's life. I am sure, that to them, I am the savor of death to death. 😩🔥

[af_vet_1981]

No; Gentiles who hated the Jewish people (except they repented/did penance) would fall in other passages. Balaam also had those who praised him.

Set thou a wicked man over him: and let Satan stand at his right hand. When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin. Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow. Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places. Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour. Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children. Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out. Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the Lord; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out. Let them be before the Lord continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth. Because that he remembered not to shew mercy, but persecuted the poor and needy man, that he might even slay the broken in heart. As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him. As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually.

Psalms, Catholic chapter one hundred and nine, Protestant verses six to sixteen,

as authorized, but not authored, by King James

[Mark17]

Hmmm. When I was a Catholic, I occasionally heard the term Christ killer from other Catholics, concerning Jews. It's been more than 4 decades since I left the Catholic Church, so I can't remember if I ever heard a priest or nun actually say that. They may have implied it. They were never stupid enough, to come right out and say they were against marriage, but they implied that, by saying becoming priests and nuns was a better way.
I know my dad asked me if I ever thought about becoming a priest. I said no. I didn't say it, but I thought I committed too many mortal sins, and I liked females too much, so I wasn't about to become a priest.
At this time, it doesn't matter a hill of beans to me, but no one has ever been able to tell me what are mortal sins and what are venial sins. I guess I will never know, but I can live with that.

[metmom]

I notice how the commitment is to the church of Peter and to him and his successors.

[HLPhat]

>>the Catholic hierarchy

Catholic hierarchy; catholic hierarchy.

What's interesting is the human tendency of vestigially plumaged dominionists to, despite what Luther correctly cited as "the Priesthood of all believers",  inevitably try to nail themselves to the Perch over everybody else regardless of the denomination and capitalization of their hierachical feathers.

[HLPhat]

>>E=mc...

Meh. Stupid Natural Order of Things.

Who needs that "gobbledeeegook" when all that's required to keep folks coming to "Bible" class is...

...Donuts!

[HLPhat]

>>PS, you don’t need to pretend to lecture me on relativity.

Great. Then you should be able to tell everybody how this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_Doppler_effect

... was produced with another practical application which demonstrates of the veracity of the Time Dilation predicted by Special Relativity.

[HLPhat]

"For ethics, we usually went up the road to the Jesuits at St. Louis University who seem to take delight in the finer distinctions of life"
---Presented to the Symposium on Infertility Ethics November 8, 2014 - Concordia Seminary, St. Louis

https://www.lcms.org/Document.fdoc?src=lcm&id=3173

So, how long til the "more catholic than the Catholics" syncretic love-fest becomes "more jesuit than the Jesuits...",  LCMS/Iconic Luther fans?

"I do not like the reappearance of the Jesuits....
Shall we not have regular swarms of them here, in as many disguises as only a king
of the gipsies can assume, dressed as printers, publishers, writers and schoolmasters?
If ever there was a body of men who merited damnation on earth and in Hell,
it is this society of Loyola’s.
Nevertheless, we are compelled by our system of religious toleration
to offer them an asylum."

--John Adams to Thomas Jefferson; May, 1816

[Luircin]

tl; dr.

Or more like I don’t care what someone who denies Christ has to say about Christian topics.

And before you protest, YES, YOU DID. On this thread, you did. Feel free to prove me wrong and confess that Jesus is Lord, as I challenged you to do.

Other than that, I really do NOT care. Lay off the harassment and leave me be.

[HLPhat]

>>someone who denies Christ

How’s that personalized slander and bearing of false witness thing working for ya Luircin?

I’ve stated multiple times that the relationship between myself is restored by the victory of Christ.

But, as I’ve answer pointed out in answer to your personified challenge, that it seems that’s not enough for folks who’ve assumed dominion with their 24x6 literalist opinions.