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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: editor-surveyor

Free will?

That’s mighty Catholic thinking of yours.


1,361 posted on 12/07/2017 10:36:41 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: editor-surveyor

And whose interpretation do you use if not your own?


1,362 posted on 12/07/2017 10:45:36 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: metmom

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No, it is mostly “Reformed” thinking, as was presented daily by the late great D. James Kennedy.
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1,363 posted on 12/07/2017 10:47:42 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ealgeone

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The word of Yehova interprets itself if you allow it to!

But clinging to the inherited lies gets in the way of that.

At no time did Yehova appoint anyone to interpret his word; only to read it and hear it.
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1,364 posted on 12/07/2017 10:52:20 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; Hrvatski Noahid
“ But the written Hebrew text is altogether incomprehensible without the Oral Torah.”

The “oral torah” is the false burden that Yeshua removed from his sheep. Read Matthew’s Gospel

There we go again. "Read Matthew's Gospel." Why should we put any stock in "Matthew's Gospel" to begin with? Why do chrstians think anyone who reads the "new testament" will automatically accept its authenticity and its religious authority? I did a book report in high school on the "book of mormon" but it didn't make me a mormon. Do chrstians have any reason for what they believe utter than pure fideism?

as he wrote it in his native tongue (Hebrew) to see Yeshua’s utter and total rejection of all things Pharisee.

Because he was a heretic.

Their Takanot and Ma’assim are the pure work of the adversary.

By "Ma'assim" do you mean the holidays, rituals, and ceremonials commanded by G-d in the Torah? There are people who believe that the Jewish G-d is "satan" (G-d forbid!). Are you one of those?

What is incomprehensible is why anyone would stake eternity on such foolishness.

If you ever get around to reading the Torah, it says very little (at the surface level) about eternity. Penalties for sin are execution, lashes, monetary fines, etc. Jews obey these commandments because they are commandments, period. The obsession with the afterlife is an old Egyptian pagan philosophy which chrstianity shares.

1,365 posted on 12/07/2017 11:00:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: metmom
He worshiped himself, instead of the G-d of Israel. He tried to nullify the Torah. He created a new religion with a new name, a new holy book written in a new language and a new theology. He caused the bloodshed of countless Jews. He disobeyed the authority of the Jewish Torah scholars.

Your opinion doesn't constitute proof.

Neither do quotes from the "new testament."

Before the "new testament" can be accepted, it must first be externally proven. After this, then and only then would a quote from it mean anything.

1,366 posted on 12/07/2017 11:04:36 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

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Give up!

The Takanot and Ma’assim have zero relation to Torah.

They’re men’s rejection of Torah.

The “Jewish God” is the stubborn will of men.

No man can be called “Rabbi.” All men are equal, and none are great.

Yehova’s appointed days are listed in Torah, and the proper respect for them is there too. The Karaites do well without “Rabbis.”

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1,367 posted on 12/07/2017 11:11:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; metmom

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>> “Before the “new testament” can be accepted, it must first be externally proven” <<

It was, when Yeshua was raised on the third day by his Father Yehova.
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1,368 posted on 12/07/2017 11:13:52 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ebb tide
...on January 3, 1521 Pope Leo excommunicated Martin Luther from the Catholic Church.

Once a Catholic; always a Catholic.

1,369 posted on 12/07/2017 11:19:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

ebb Tide was banned!

Where?

When?


1,370 posted on 12/07/2017 11:21:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
...(the test is in John’s first epistle, why do you reject it?)

Why?

Because I'm not finished beating my wife yet.

1,371 posted on 12/07/2017 11:22:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
I’m sure I’ve missed it if you posted it here.

It appears so...

1,372 posted on 12/07/2017 11:24:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Caution: it requires the consent of the Holy Spirit to proceed!

Why?

The First Command of GOD was to n ot EAT of the fruit.

Eve added TOUCH IT.



Numbers 4:5-20  KJV

And when the camp setteth forward, Aaron shall come, and his sons, and they shall take down the covering vail, and cover the ark of testimony with it: and shall put thereon the covering of badgers’ skins, and shall spread over it a cloth wholly of blue, and shall put in the staves thereof. And upon the table of shewbread they shall spread a cloth of blue, and put thereon the dishes, and the spoons, and the bowls, and covers to cover withal: and the continual bread shall be thereon: and they shall spread upon them a cloth of scarlet, and cover the same with a covering of badgers’ skins, and shall put in the staves thereof. And they shall take a cloth of blue, and cover the candlestick of the light, and his lamps, and his tongs, and his snuffdishes, and all the oil vessels thereof, wherewith they minister unto it: 10 and they shall put it and all the vessels thereof within a covering of badgers’ skins, and shall put it upon a bar. 11 And upon the golden altar they shall spread a cloth of blue, and cover it with a covering of badgers’ skins, and shall put to the staves thereof: 12 and they shall take all the instruments of ministry, wherewith they minister in the sanctuary, and put them in a cloth of blue, and cover them with a covering of badgers’ skins, and shall put them on a bar: 13 and they shall take away the ashes from the altar, and spread a purple cloth thereon: 14 and they shall put upon it all the vessels thereof, wherewith they minister about it, even the censers, the fleshhooks, and the shovels, and the basons, all the vessels of the altar; and they shall spread upon it a covering of badgers’ skins, and put to the staves of it. 15 And when Aaron and his sons have made an end of covering the sanctuary, and all the vessels of the sanctuary, as the camp is to set forward; after that, the sons of Kohath shall come to bear it: but they shall not touch any holy thing, lest they die. These things are the burden of the sons of Kohath in the tabernacle of the congregation.

16 And to the office of Eleazar the son of Aaron the priest pertaineth the oil for the light, and the sweet incense, and the daily meat offering, and the anointing oil, and the oversight of all the tabernacle, and of all that therein is, in the sanctuary, and in the vessels thereof.

17 And the Lord spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, 18 Cut ye not off the tribe of the families of the Kohathites from among the Levites: 19 but thus do unto them, that they may live, and not die, when they approach unto the most holy things: Aaron and his sons shall go in, and appoint them every one to his service and to his burden: 20 but they shall not go in to see when the holy things are covered, lest they die.


What NEW 'rule' is now in play?

1,373 posted on 12/07/2017 11:32:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
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Is your wife also guilty of believing this:
1John.4

[1] Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
[2] Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
[3] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Ron Wyatt's personal testimony has never been questioned by any credible witness. .

1,374 posted on 12/07/2017 11:36:33 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie

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You’re no rule maker.

Your fame here is squirming against the word and the facts at hand.

Six Cohenim commissioned by the Israeli to follow in Ron’s tracks are dead, and their carcasses had to be pulled out by Ron at the request of the Israeli government.

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1,375 posted on 12/07/2017 11:42:44 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

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1,376 posted on 12/07/2017 11:43:13 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: editor-surveyor

That doesn’t answer the question; do you believe what Paul wrote in his letter to the Ephesians and Jesus said in John 3 and John 5 or not?

If no, then I really don’t have anything to say to you because we don’t share a source of authority.

If yes, I’d LOVE to hear exactly how you can reconcile that to your statements.


1,377 posted on 12/07/2017 11:43:13 AM PST by Luircin
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To: Elsie

ebb Tide was banned!

Where?

When?

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This morning!

He posted another I-hate-everyone-but-me thread bashing Protestants and pinged all of us to it. I alerted the mods because they’re VERY good at taking down those things, especially from him. Within 20 minutes it was GONE.

As it turns out, he had time for one more whiny post to me on this thread before the mods came down on him with the banhammer.

I do hope it’s permanent.


1,378 posted on 12/07/2017 11:44:58 AM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin

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Post with specificity what your point is.

Don’t be vague.

There is nothing in the word of Yehova that I have denied.

You painted yourself into the corner, now walk the paint.
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1,379 posted on 12/07/2017 11:48:54 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Read Ephesians 2.

Specifically verses 1-10.

The plain words of the Apostle Paul regarding salvation by grace through faith, not on account of works, so that no man may boast.

So tell me, how do you reconcile that with your claim that there’s no such thing as salvation by grace?


1,380 posted on 12/07/2017 12:20:52 PM PST by Luircin
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