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What, Indeed, Is the Quran?
Crisis Magazine ^ | January 9, 2018 | Rev. James V. Schall, S.J.

Posted on 01/09/2018 8:36:32 AM PST by ebb tide

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To: VietVet876

LOL, I shouldn’t drink coffee while reading threads like this.
I’ve got a mess to clean up....
BTW I referred to the book as the satanic bible.


41 posted on 01/09/2018 11:13:04 AM PST by Conservative4Life (I'm not too worried, I've read the book and know how it all ends...We win)
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To: Steven Tyler

“Sadly, a sheep ate that scrap of paper.”

That explains why muslims have been poking around in sheep’s anuses for centuries, they are trying to get that scrap back!


42 posted on 01/09/2018 1:13:23 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: ebb tide
Yahweh and Allah is not the same God.

Does this Novus Ordo priest admit that Vatican II falsely teaches they are?

43 posted on 01/09/2018 1:46:36 PM PST by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: wtd
This essay should be repeated often online so it does not disappear as is obviously intended.

Perhaps the articles should be downloaded and stored offline, and printed out and reposted in multiple cloud sites where the links can be made public. That is an interesting piece of history.

44 posted on 01/09/2018 2:24:19 PM PST by Defiant (I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
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To: ebb tide
There is a building in Jerusalem called "The Dome of the Rock". Its walls are covered with quotations from the Koran. But many of these quotations cannot be found in today's Koran: they were put there before the Caliph Othman created the "definitive" version. Proof in stone that the Koran is not immutable.

Moslems will also tell you that the Koran is the most beautiful Arabic ever. It isn't. It's piss-poor Arabic, with a good deal of bad grammar and many Syriac loan words. In other words, the work of a semi-literate merchant, not of a divine being.

45 posted on 01/09/2018 7:11:32 PM PST by John Locke
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46 posted on 01/10/2018 7:51:28 AM PST by wtd
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The stated goals of the Muslim Brotherhood are as follows...

...Inform the world about Islam and spread its teachings
...Unify the world under the banner of Islam
...Raise the standard of living and achieve social justice
...Fight disease, poverty, ignorance and hunger
...Liberate the Ummah (Islamic nation) from foreign rule
...Establish a worldwide Islamic state (caliphate)....................(all of their actions are undertaken in this context of these two focused goals)
...Build a New World Order (civilization) based on sharia and Islam. ...
....it considers itself to be an Islamic revivalist movement that aims at rejuvenating staid and archaic forms of Islam
....they see no difference between religion and politics....there is only Islam.. the only legitimate way of life....shariah the only law.
....the originators of the idea one should love death and crave a martyrs end... the often epeated slogan of Brotherhood affiliate Hamas, “We love death more than you love life.”
...they regard America as “The Great Satan”...”Israel the Little Satan”
...they have historically often allied with Communism to fight Western forces in the M.E...
( Side note:The Muslim Brotherhood supported Hitler during the war, with members acting as spies and fighters against the British....The Nazis provided the Brotherhood with a printing press which they used to disseminate Arabic translations of Hitler’s ein Kampf and the notorious, and the Semitic Protocols of the Elders ofZion)
...they have set up a network of front (and allied) organizations fulfilling their goal of ‘spreading the message of “political Islam’”as the antidote to what they
believe as a corrupt Western society by presenting themselves as the protectors of Muslim civil rights. thereby able to deflect much criticism of their organizations as well as political Islam itself by claiming that such criticism stems from discrimination against Muslims, what they term: “Islamophobia.” Used as a ‘political weapon’ for the purpose of beating down critics.
...The Brotherhood openly deplores the position of woman in Western Societies.
...The middle classes make up the vast majority of the Brotherhood membership, mainly of small business owners, newly urban
arrivals, university students and professionals. All members pay a fee to their local branch.
...Neighborhood Mosques are their bases, particularly in areas they cannot operate openly


47 posted on 01/10/2018 9:00:55 AM PST by caww
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The Islamic definition of much of the terminology in that list of goals does not match Western cultures understanding of the same terminology.

But I believe caww and I have similar understandings of Islam in general.

48 posted on 01/10/2018 9:14:18 AM PST by wtd
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To: ebb tide

It is the steaming pile of cr@p squeezed out of Mo’ by “an angel”

I am not making that up- the beginning of the book tells how he met an angel and refused to write the book until he got squeezed.

It sounds like they brought him into a spaceship and let the air out of the airlock until he gave in.


49 posted on 01/10/2018 9:18:30 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: wtd

.....”The Islamic definition of much of the terminology in that list of goals does not match Western cultures understanding of the same terminology”......

That’s because muslims view terminology through the lens of Islam....Western culture has yet to understand ‘their’ meanings and few who care to learn them. Especially politicians and those in authority.


50 posted on 01/10/2018 9:21:26 AM PST by caww
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