Posted on 01/11/2018 6:54:52 PM PST by Salvation
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Ouch.....
There are two different Greek words.
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Yes, but he is just making it up because cephas
Is not greek, it is the language Jesus spoke at
Least according to the ones in the know.
Either Hebrew or Aramaic, the scripture was Wrote
in Greek, but in John 1 the writer left cephas in
the hebrew or Aramaic.
Most likely to keep hot shot professors from denying
that Jesus called Simon the rock.
It is so childish for some one to make up stuff like
small stone and large stone, why not just except what
Jesus said?
I have always wondered if Jesus was referring to himself
in Mathew when he said I will build my church on this rock.
and mostly have excepted it as true but I see no need to
add to it and try to push it down people’s throats who
don’t see it like that.
But I have heard the Catholic antagonists twist so much
scripture it is hard to believe that it comes from a god
fearing human being.
If you want to argue with the Catholic doctrine there is
enough room for that with out saying any thing that will
insult st Peter or Mary, they did nothing to have all of
this stupid stuff brought on them.
I all so get to feeling ashamed of my self when I am dealing
with the likes of imardmd1 so the only thing I can do is quit
and let him have the last word.
Pope Francis: Fears of Mass Migration Are 'Legitimate' and 'Fully Comprehensible'
I must admit, at first I thought a "Mass migration" story was about Catholics going directly out the back door immediately after getting the "Holy Eucharist."
We’ve no record of what these folks said.
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I bet it would be interesting, I would think that an experience of that type would make people’s faith unshakable.
Read it again! You may learn something about the authority of the Catholic Church.
Then again, some minds may be already made up and feel superior to God the Father based on their man-made religion of Sola fide and Sola Scriptura.
The Protestant idea of the “Bible alone” (sola scriptura) is, ironically, nowhere in the Bible. On the contrary, the Bible speaks of an infallible Sacred Tradition and an infallible Church that has authority to interpret Scripture. The Bible even warns against sola scriptura.
“[I]f he refuses to listen even to the Church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” (Matt. 18:15-18).
“He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me” (Luke 10:16).
“[W]hen you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers” (1 Thess. 2:13).
“So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter” (2 Thess. 2:15).
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/sola-scriptura-is-unscriptural
You may seek God’s Truth through the Catholic church and not through a man-made heretical church(s). You are allowed to believe what you want, but one’s salvation depends on one seeking the Truth. You assume facts not in evidence - just your personal opinion.
God by definition cannot sin because he is perfect goodness itself. It would be a logical contradiction for God to violate his perfectly good and perfectly rational nature.
So if it is impossible for God to sin, then it was impossible for Jesus to sin because Jesus is God.
Certainly Jesus was tempted, but he did not sin and His Mother was spared from Original sin from her parents through the grace of God. the Blessed Mother followed the will of God as an obedient servant and did not sin.
Thomas Aquinas did not start a man-made church, but interpreted the teachings of Jesus as delegated to the Catholic Church.
Or you can admit that you are not correcting imardmd1, But rather you are correcting the Holy Spirit, and the Apostles John, Peter, and Paul whose writings say to the Bible translators and myself that Kayfas (Cephas) and Petros are one and the same in context, and mean stone; whereas Sela and Petra are the same in context, and mean rock, no matter what your opinion might be. As I have said before, your ramblings do not deserve the attention that they have been given, but out of compassion my other affairs have been set aside to freely give you that attention. But that cannot continue without some kind of quid pro quo return from the effort.
Show us the verses.
Show us the verses that say *Catholic church*, and *sacred tradition*.
Prove to us what the traditions are of which Paul spoke. Prove that they came directly from the apostles and that they were passed down faithfully without corruption.
God tells us in His word that Scripture provides everything we need to be complete as a man or woman of God.
2 Timothy 3:14-17 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
People may seek it through the Catholic church, but they won't find it. We don't seek God's truth through ANY church.
It's found in His word.
John 17:17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.
Not to mention the loads upon loads of blatant contradictions or Scripture that the Romanists have in their laws.
Apparently obedience to the Word of God is optional for Catholics.
Doesn’t even matter if they add ‘sacred tradition’ to the Word or not; if they contradict the Word, the Catholics are wrong.
And they do.
See post 446
What I find fascinating in speaking with non-Catholics about this is almost all of them agree with a Catholic understanding here when it comes to the authority of Jesus. But here is what they almost universally miss: Just about every time the New Testament reveals the radical nature of Christ’s authority, you will find in close proximity Christ then giving a similar authority to the Church.
Matt. 28:18-20:
… All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age (the implication is go with my authority).
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/how-can-the-church-teach-angels
Your comment: “God tells us in His word that Scripture provides everything we need to be complete as a man or woman of God.”
But you ignore these words of Jesus: “Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.”
Tim. 3:14-15:
I hope to come to you soon, but I am writing these instructions to you so that, if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark (foundation) of the truth.
Notice, this last text is given in the context of St. Paul describing some of the offices of the Church; namely, the bishop and the deacon (i.e. earlier in chapter 3).
St. Paul’s Letter to the Ephesians
The above represent very plain texts. And there are many more we could consider. But for our purpose here, consider St. Paul’s letter to the Ephesians. In chapter 1, St. Paul says plainly that the Church is the fullness of Christ in the world today; thus, to reject the Church is to reject Christ:
Eph. 1:20-23:
[God] raised [Christ] from the dead and made him sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come; and he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.
In chapter 2, St. Paul tells us the Church is the foundation of our faith (specifically, it says “the apostles and prophets” are the foundation, with Jesus Christ “being the cornerstone”), similar to what he said in I Tim. 3:15:
You cannot expect someone so dependent upon priestly empowerment to understand what you so clearly communicated. Such priestly ‘power’ will continue to lead people down the hell-bound works road.
This plea will be rejected at the great white throne of your judgment: “as delegated to the Catholic Church”. Jesus did not vest power in an institution. The word church is better translated ‘body of believers saved by His Grace for belief and reliance upon HIM, not the institutional Priesthood empowerment scheme of Catholicism.
Many cults and almost Christian sects have EXPERIENCES that they rely on.
John 18:37
For this reason I was born, and for this reason I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.
I'm waiting for THIS link:
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/sola-scriptura-is-INSUFFICENT
The apostles and elders, your brothers,
To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:
Greetings.
24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.
Farewell.
HMMMmmm...
I thought His body was them little wafers...
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