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The Dormition of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God [2007]
Sword-In-Hat Blogspot ^ | 15 August 2007 | Rick Stuckwisch

Posted on 08/18/2019 7:05:12 PM PDT by Al Hitan

Today the Church remembers with thanksgiving the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of God. Historically, this day was understood to mark her dormition, or "falling asleep," which was most anciently regarded as her natural death and burial. From early on, however, the Church considered that she who conceived and gave birth to the very God of very God, by His Word and Holy Spirit, was also resurrected and ascended into heaven, in both body and soul, soon after her death. There is no word of Holy Scripture to teach these traditions as doctrine, but we should not be too quick to dismiss them as merely pious devotion. Such piety, at its heart, is a confession of that which is the Church's faith in Christ, the Blessed Virgin Mary's Son, our Savior and our God.

St. Mary is uniquely honored among all the saints of God in Christ, not only by the Church, but first of all by the Lord God Himself. He has had mercy upon her, blessed her with His grace and favor, and chosen her above all other women to bear the almighty and eternal Son of God. She is rightly called, and truly is, the Mother of God; for her own dear Son, the Fruit of her womb, is indeed the one true God, begotten of the Father from all eternity. It is from her flesh and blood that the Lord has taken for Himself a true and natural body, bone of her bone and flesh of her flesh, so that henceforth He is true Man, the perfect second Adam, our elder Brother, our kinsman Redeemer, the promised Seed of the Woman, by whom we are reconciled to God. As the ancient fathers of the Church confessed, God thus became like us, in order that we become like Him, by grace. It is that great salvation that we celebrate in commemorating any of the saints, and in particular the Blessed Virgin Mother of God, St. Mary.

She is an icon of the Church, a living Sacrament of Christ, and a beautiful example of faith, of all the true children of father Abraham. Her body was comprehended by the Word and Spirit of God to become the tangible means by which the Son of God became flesh and was given to us, and not only for us, but for the life of the world. It is His body, conceived and born of St. Mary, that our sins and sorrows did carry. It is a human body, like our own in every way, save without sin, because He was born of this woman (born under the Law to redeem us). Thus do we recognize in her an archetype of the Blessed Sacrament of our Lord's body and blood.

What is more, in conceiving and giving birth to the Son of God, she is a type of the Church, the holy mother who surely gives birth to the sons of God in Christ. We too have been conceived and given new birth by the same Word and Spirit of the same Holy Triune God that overshadowed the Blessed Virgin Mary and knit within her womb the incarnation of the only-begotten Son. Thus are we, like Him, "born not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God" (St. John 1:13).

Along with her vocation as the woman by whom the Son of God was given to and for the world, St. Mary also stands with us as a living member of the Church, the Body of Christ. When the Word of the Gospel was announced to her, she received that Word in faith, obtained in her by the mercies of God, and meekly bowed her head in humble trust: "Let it be to me according to Thy Word." Blessed is she who has heard the Word of God and kept it, who treasured it in her heart, who believed that there would surely be a fulfillment of all that God had spoken to her. In all of this, St. Mary is one of us, a faithful disciple of her own dear Son, and among that great cloud of witnesses with which we are surrounded, of that blest communion, fellowship divine.

When the Church in pious tradition has considered St. Mary to be resurrected and ascended to heaven, already in both body and soul, it is a confession of faith in that which Christ Jesus our Lord has accomplished for us and for all by His victorious Cross, Resurrection and Ascension. We may indeed contemplate that she by whom the Lord became like us, should exemplify the way in which we all become like Him, recreated in the glorious Image of the Man from heaven. Of course, we do not rest faith upon the tradition of St. Mary's dormition and assumption into heaven; faith clings to Jesus Christ alone and finds true peace and Sabbath rest forever in Him. But what we envision concering St. Mary, we understand to be the Church's hope precisely in Christ our Lord, our Savior and our God. For we know that He is the Resurrection and the Life, and that she who believes in Him will live even if she dies; yes, and everyone who lives and believes in Him will never die.

We believe, teach and confess with the absolute certainty of faith that St. Mary is the Mother of God; that the almighty and eternal Son of the living God was born of this woman, born under the Law, to redeem us who were under the Law. In celebrating that marvelous incarnation of God the Son, in which He died and rose again for us men and our salvation, we may also celebrate proleptically the resurrection of the body that all His saints share with Him by grace through faith in the Gospel. And in that glorious light, we sing: "O higher than the cherubim, more glorious than the seraphim, lead their praises: 'Alleluia!' Thou bearer of the eternal Word, most gracious magnify the Lord: 'Alleluia! Alleluia! Alleluia!"


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: dormition; lams; lcms; lutheran; mary; protestant
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To: boatbums
Can't you argue for your beliefs without calling others anti-Catholic and accusing them of lying?

Nope. He cannot.

301 posted on 08/20/2019 4:59:24 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: smvoice
Elsie post from an Elsithon:

Let me see if I get this Catholic characterization list for their Mary :

The way it’s written:

Galatians 4:4-5
But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5 to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship.

The way Rome teaches it:

Galatians 4:4-5
But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a....

Co-Redemptrix,
Ark of the Covenant,
Beloved daughter of the Father,
Favoured Daughter of the Father,
Cause of Our Joy,
Cause of our Salvation ,
Comfort of the Afflicted,
Destroyer of Heresy,
Ever-virgin ,
Gate of Heaven,
God-bearer,
Great Mother,
Health of the Sick,
Heavenly Chariot,
Help of Christians,
Holy Mary,
Holy Mother of God,
Holy Virgin of Virgins,
House of Gold,
Joy of the Just,
Majesty,
Mirror of Justice,
Morning Star,
Most Holy,
Mother Admirable,
Mother Inviolate,
Mother Most Amiable,
Mother Most Chaste,
Mother Most Pure,
Mother of Christ,
Mother of Divine Grace,
Mother of God,
Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Mercy,
Mother of Orphans,
Mother of Our Creator,
Mother of Our Redeemer,
Mother of Sorrows,
Mother of the Church,
Mother of the Poor,
Mother of the Word,
Mother of the Word Incarnate,
Mother Thrice Admirable,
Mother Undefiled,
Mystical Rose,
Nova Eva (the New Eve),
Our Lady of Compassion,
Our Lady of Confidence,
Our Lady of Victory,
Our Lady, Star of the Sea,
Our Mother of Perpetual Help,
Queen Assumed Into Heaven,
Queen Conceived Without Original Sin,
Queen of All Saints,
Queen of Angels,
Queen of Apostles,
Queen of Confessors,
Queen of Families,
Queen of Heaven,
Queen of Martyrs,
Queen of Patriarchs,
Queen of Peace,
Queen of Prophets,
Queen of the Most Holy Rosary,
Queen of Virgins,
Ravisher of Hearts,
Refuge of Sinners,
Resplendant car,
Seat of Wisdom,
She Who Shows the Way,
Singular Vessel of Devotion,
Spiritual Vessel,
Spouse of the Holy Spirit,
Sovereign Mistress of the Angels,
Tabernacle of the Lord,
Temple of the Holy Spirit,
Temple of the Most Holy Trinity,
Throne of Wisdom,
Tower of David,
Tower of Ivory,
Treasure House of God’s Graces,
Untier of Knots,
Vessel of Honor,
Virgin God-bearer,
Virgin Most Faithful,
Virgin Most Merciful,
Virgin Most Powerful,
Virgin Most Prudent,
Virgin Most Renowned,
Virgin Most Venerable
Virgin of virgins, born under the law, 5 to HELP redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship; sooner or later; and not spend TOO much time in Purgatory.



302 posted on 08/20/2019 5:00:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN; Elsie
Non sequitur ... Rahab lived long before David, and Messiah is identified as ascending David's throne, a son of David, Son of Man.

Except in all the genealogies of Jesus we have in Scripture (Matthew and Luke) there are names given AFTER David. Matthew traces the line through David's son Solomon (Matthew 1:6), while Luke traces the line through David's son Nathan (Luke 3:31). In fact, between David and Jesus, the only names the genealogies have in common are Shealtiel and Zerubbabel (Matthew 1:12; Luke 3:27).

Luke is recording Mary’s genealogy and Matthew is recording Joseph’s. Matthew is following the line of Joseph (Jesus’ legal father), through David’s son Solomon, while Luke is following the line of Mary (Jesus’ blood relative), through David’s son Nathan. Since there was no Greek word for “son-in-law,” Joseph was called the “son of Heli” by marriage to Mary, Heli’s daughter. Through either Mary’s or Joseph’s line, Jesus is a descendant of David and therefore eligible to be the Messiah. Tracing a genealogy through the mother’s side is unusual, but so was the virgin birth. Luke’s explanation is that Jesus was the son of Joseph, “so it was thought” (Luke 3:23). https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-genealogy.html

303 posted on 08/20/2019 5:07:34 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: MHGinTN

It’s an “other” that preaches an accursed gospel.


304 posted on 08/20/2019 5:11:41 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: ealgeone
Meant to ping you on this one.

I have been watching. A lot of 1st Corinthians 2:14 going on here. 😁🤣

305 posted on 08/20/2019 5:11:54 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: kosciusko51
So, the classic Greek word Theotokos is more accurate, as it mean God-bearer. It doesn’t necessarily mean that God originated from Mary, just as a surrogate mother is not the origin of the baby she births.

This is the more correct rendering of the term and doesn't carry nearly the amount of problems as how the term is translated now.

306 posted on 08/20/2019 5:16:56 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mark17
bro, you ain't kiddin!

How's the LT doing?

307 posted on 08/20/2019 5:18:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MHGinTN

“See post # 258 ... you fail, yet again!”

I in no way failed. Nothing in 258 shows or even suggested I failed in any way.


308 posted on 08/20/2019 5:37:19 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ealgeone
How's the LT doing?

He had his first flight yesterday, in the DA-20 Katana. It went very badly. He got air sick, 10 minutes into the flight, so they grounded him for a couple of days. He wasn’t the only one who got sick. Most of the time, they get over it, but he is number one in academics. He needs to get over the air sickness, get back in the cockpit, and just fly the doggone plane. 😁

309 posted on 08/20/2019 5:40:14 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: boatbums

They are the only ones who have the truth and letting everyone know.. (sarc).. I could never be a catholic... too much pomp and circumstance and not enough of Jesus Christ.


310 posted on 08/20/2019 5:43:05 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: ealgeone

“From one who admitted to at one time falling for the false message of an apparition.”

I have never fallen for any false message from anyone.

“I seriously question anyone who has fallen for that false message.”

Well, that means you’re not questioning me since I have never fallen for a false message of any kind. That’s exactly why I reject Protestantism.

“Keep flailing away to try and explain away your statement.”

There’s nothing to explain away: What I said is irrefutably true. You were simply wrong as is the usual case.

“This would be comical if it weren’t so sad at the same time.”

What’s comical is how you reject orthodox Christianity and logical for your own fantasies.


311 posted on 08/20/2019 5:43:23 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Mark17

That’s a bummer for sure. Gotta get his “air legs” for sure.,p>
He’ll get it.


312 posted on 08/20/2019 5:43:28 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

John 1: 1-3: In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.
All things came to be through him,
and without him nothing came to be.

John 1:14: And the Word became flesh
and made his dwelling among us,
and we saw his glory,
the glory as of the Father’s only Son,
full of grace and truth.

The Second Person of the Trinity BECAME FLESH. Only after John says that does he refer to “Jesus Christ” in verse 17.


313 posted on 08/20/2019 5:44:48 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: frnewsjunkie

“you are very judgmental and i could take offense.”

And how much of the truth would that change? Oh, that’s right, none of it.


314 posted on 08/20/2019 5:45:53 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: MHGinTN

“Can you prove from whence came the chromosomal complement that Jesus used?”

Do you have any of your mother’s DNA?


315 posted on 08/20/2019 5:47:31 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
>>“From one who admitted to at one time falling for the false message of an apparition.”<<

I have never fallen for any false message from anyone.

You did admit to wearing the scapular at one time but IIRC you stopped.

The message of the apparition is a false one as it contradicts Scripture....but based on your posts today I can see why you were deceived by the apparition.

You and ebb....wearing the scapular at one time. It would be comical if it weren't so sad that ya'll were, well ebb still is, trusting in a man-made piece of cloth to keep you from the eternal fire.

After your admission of wearing the scapular and your post today I really have no idea what you believe.....but it isn't New Testament Christianity.

316 posted on 08/20/2019 5:48:35 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom

“So now it reads that you’re saying that Jesus is not the Second Person of the Trinity, God Incarnate.
Interesting.......”

I never said anything remotely like that. Why do you have to resort to posting falsehoods?


317 posted on 08/20/2019 5:49:12 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998; MHGinTN
Do you have any of your mother’s DNA?

More flailing away I see.

Image result for flailing

318 posted on 08/20/2019 5:50:09 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: boatbums; metmom

“Can’t you argue for your beliefs without calling others anti-Catholic and accusing them of lying?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3772743/posts?page=317#317


319 posted on 08/20/2019 5:50:16 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ealgeone

eagleone, do you have any of your mother’s DNA?

This is such a simple question that even you should be able to answer it.


320 posted on 08/20/2019 5:51:11 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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