ALIENS and the BIBLE – Are We Alone?

PatriotandLiberty ^ | 8/23 | Ring them Bells

[spirited irish]

Our Government says they have answers. As Christians we now need to have a biblically based response. Are Aliens in the Bible? We have designed this video to help give language to this tough topic. This video is dedicated to the late Dr. Michael Heiser – @DRMSH He used his scholarly platform to form a UFO mission Field. Along with caring about sharing the good news with this normally avoided group, Heiser also brought scholarly credibility to the question of… ARE WE ALONE? Tim Mackie makes a couple appearances along with NT Wright

[MIA_eccl1212]

Jesus came, gave His life at crucifixion...

Jesus is the lamb slain BEFORE the foundation of the very earth where he was crucified...

does not make sense temporally, NOR does it have to.

[Big Red Badger]

I’ve read many books on
UFO’s-Ghosts-occult-false religions
and the Black Arts back in the day and they all seemed to have two things in common;
#1-—the Message of Confusion.
#2-—the strong aversion to The Bible.
.
Now-—Here I Stand.

[Jan_Sobieski]

In 1969 we couldn’t make it through the Van Allen belts. We still can’t yet. The monkey couldn’t even make it. The Van Allen probes just found another belt! We didn’t have the probe technology in 69. Kubrick filmed it. You can debate me all you want. I’m an avionics (SE/CE) with the defense industry. You won’t hurt my feelings, but I will challenge your Duning-Krueger charge

[Jan_Sobieski]

We’ve been being lied to for decades. All to set up this coming fake alien invasion. Like Reagan and Kissinger said, “to bring us together!”

[Bethaneidh]

More than that: The Word is condensed. See John 21:25.

[ViLaLuz]

Yeah, the government has answers alright. It’s just that they aren’t the truth. This is a distraction. Later it could be an explanation for the rapture. We are dealing with demonic spirits. I totally agree with Gary Bates.

[invoman]

It is worth considering what Paul said about Jesus (through the Holy Spirit) in Colossians 1:

Col. 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

It is hard to get around this (fairly) plain language.

The question almost becomes, "If you believe in aliens, how did Jesus' blood (on the cross) effect these aliens?
Do THEY have a "sin problem" also?
If so, then how many times was Jesus crucified?"

ALL THINGS...whether they be things in earth, or THINGS IN HEAVEN.

[DouglasKC]

There’s only one extraterrestial intelligence. He goes by the name of the eternal.

[invoman]

You said:

There’s no specific description of Him making angels or other sentient beings other than humans, as far as I know.

Please consider this description of Lucifer/Satan?

Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

[Tell It Right]

IMHO, that doesn't answer the question of if God created alien life. Col 1:20's "...whether they be things on earth, or things in heaven" (and by "heaven" it could mean outer space) doesn't necessarily say whether or not alien life is out there, but does say if it is it's in Jesus' domain.

So back to my main point of the Copernican Principle practically implying that aliens must exist for atheists being right on the origin of life. Alien life is a question they have to prove (that aliens exist) but not something Christians have to prove (we're good whether or not aliens exist so we don't have to prove neither the existence nor nonexistence of aliens). To me, the more they play up the possibility of aliens existing, the more they show desperation on behalf of atheist belief in origin of life.

[invoman]

You are correct that this passage doesn't dispel the idea of alien life (whether they are microbes all the way to advanced life forms).

It DOES however, subject this alien life form to Jesus dying on the cross...here on Earth.

So, again, I posit:
Do other worlds have a sin problem that needs the blood of Jesus?

If not, then they would be pretty ticked off at these verses (below), right?
I mean...they get burned up in fire...with no sin involved?

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

2 Peter 3:10-13
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness,
12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

[Tell It Right]

To me, the question for the sin nature of hypothetical aliens is: are they sinners if they have no inheritance from sinful Adam? I guess that’s possible, since the fallen angels weren’t descendants of Adam either.

[RoosterRedux]

God created angels before he created humans. Aren’t they extraterrestrial (or extradimensional)?

[RoosterRedux]

Many of the people who see, experience, and are even abducted by UFO's (even some military people--see Matthew Roberts) are dabblers in the occult. Some of those dabblers don't even know it is the occult they are dabbling with. They think it is just some innocent game.

An old girlfriend of mine used to collect crystals. She thought they had healing power, but laughed at the idea that they might be connected with the occult. For the record, I don't know how crystals are connected with the occult, but I noticed that New Age conventions (yes, I went to one with said girlfriend) were full of booths selling crystals.

[Big Red Badger]

Mom’s gave me a crystal years ago and she held it in her hands and said goodbye in a sort of prayer.
I renounce occultism and pray the Scales fall from the eyes of all practicetioners!

[RoosterRedux]

Ditto to your prayer!

[cuban leaf]

The dunning Krueger wasn’t aimed at you. Sorry. It was aimed at pretty much all of us on some issues.

[unlearner]

True. Good point. I did think of that, but even that passage doesn’t seem to disclose many details.

We know that the Devil, angels, and other sentient beings of this type exist. And God created them. There just isn’t a lot of additional information.

I don’t think it’s bad to speculate. We just need to treat speculation for what it is.