Posted on 07/26/2002 2:35:57 PM PDT by narses
As a traditional Jew, I'm deeply concerned over the plight of the Roman Catholic Church, which I consider to be the largest and most influential repository of conservative Judeo-Christian values in America today. I believe that those of us who care about the furtherance of a moral society have a stake in the future of the church as a moral force. The American church is under siege today, not only from the usual external forces but also from the weight of its own internal contradictions. The scandal of corrupt homosexual priests violating the innocence of minors in their care is, to put it mildly, a contradiction in Christian and Catholic practice and faith. When did this corruption inject itself into the system and why was the situation allowed to deteriorate to such a degree?
Much has been written regarding Communist methods of infiltration. The standard method was to "bore from within" which involved Communists disguising themselves as loyalists to an organization they sought to undermine. Once gaining entry, they would gradually and subtly change the values and principles of the targeted organization. The process of "change" can take a generation. Communists have exhibited unlimited patience and supreme confidence in the ultimate attainment of their goals. Examples in America include substantial inroads by Communists into organized labor, academia, the legal profession, race relations, cultural institutions, and the government itself.
When planning to infiltrate, the Communists probe for an institutional weakness to exploit and, in the case of the Catholic Church, perhaps they perceived the weakness to reside in the all-male celibate priesthood. Did Communists send their followers, particularly homosexuals, sexual deviants, and enablers, into seminaries to become priests in order to foster a homosexual culture within the church? Homosexuals, practicing their predilections in an overwhelmingly conservative Catholic community, while given protection by well placed minded superiors, could certainly contribute to the undermining of faith in Catholicism and could unquestionably shake the credibility and moral standing of the church itself down to its very foundations. Undermining Catholic authority has been a clear and often stated goal of the Communist left. Speculation regarding how the Communists attempted to implement their program is reasonable and necessary in order to better understand the present situation.
Two former Communists, Bella Dodd and Manning Johnson, spoke on Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church. Dodd, an important Communist party lawyer, teacher and activist, converted to Catholicism in April 1952 under the tutelage of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. Stating that the Communist infiltration was so extensive that in the future "you will not recognize the Catholic Church," Dodd also asserted that:
"In the 1930's, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within."
"Right now they are in the highest places, and they are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church will no longer be effective against Communism."
Manning Johnson, a former Communist Party official and author of "Color, Communism and Common Sense" testified in 1953 to the House un-American Activities Committee regarding the infiltration of the Catholic Church:
"Once the tactic of infiltration of religious organizations was set by the Kremlin ... the Communists discovered that the destruction of religion could proceed much faster through infiltration of the (Catholic) Church by Communists operating within the Church itself. The Communist leadership in the United States realized that the infiltration tactic in this country would have to adapt itself to American conditions (Europe also had its cells) and the religious make-up peculiar to this country. In the earliest stages it was determined that with only small forces available to them, it would be necessary to concentrate Communist agents in the seminaries. The practical conclusion drawn by the Red leaders was that these institutions would make it possible for a small Communist minority to influence the ideology of future clergymen in the paths conducive to Communist purposes This policy of infiltrating seminaries was successful beyond even our communist expectations."
As a radio talk show host and avid listener to talk radio in Boston, I've listened intently to comments by Catholics as the crisis has unfolded. Much has been said regarding the left dominance of the seminaries and a prevalence of the ideas of "liberation theology" which is a biblically contradictory Trojan horse within the Catholic gates. Establishment organs, such as the Boston Globe, continue to wring their hands over the homosexual activities of priests while supporting a homosexual agenda everywhere else. Hopefully, the Catholic flock will wake up and sweep the corruption out of their church in the same way that their founder, Jesus of Nazareth, swept the moneychangers out of the Temple.
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Ping. An oldie but a goodie.
I would not write off "AA-1025" so easliy.
In my personal experiences I have met more then a few priests who willfully entered the priesthood under false pretenses. Homosexuals - who were quite proud of themselves, and described the process of fooling their teachers in the seminaries (those who were conservative)....and pretended a type of orthodoxy so as to fly under the radar.
Also, I know of at least two priests whose parents were card-carrying members of the Communist party....and were quite proud of this fact.
As some authors have indicated - which tends to corroborate the AA-1025 story - is that gay men were used as one of the primary vehicles for infiltration. They were blackmailable (both in the 1930s and today), and so could be easily controlled, manipulated, and ordered about. Obedience to superiors, and the peer pressure of being "outed" within teh limited universe of their fellow priests was the vise which locked them into step. They had to obey.........to go along.......to follow and implement "policy", or face sanctions.
What they found was that the gay priest was the ideal vehicle for their plans. He had something to hide - which could be played upon, making him vulnerable. He had few true morals, so he could be easily corrupted. Even if he did have some morals, he could be gradually weaned of them, nad made quite useful.
Yes......a quote to that extent was in the opening pages of Fr. Malachi Martin's Windswept House.
Your remark regarding Catholic Charities is quite correct. There is very little which is Catholic about it, and charity............think "black hole for money".
Like the CHD.
SOP for Homosexual operatives!!
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Technically, Weakland is STILL a Bishop.
And Weakie was the one who found Merton dead in the shower, as he tells the story.
This was an interesting thread, wasn't it?
7 Story Mountain was good but then it seemed like his wheels were falling off, one by one.
I can't believe 'Weakie' was the one who found him... that man is everywhere (he probably shouldn't be)!
I don't know why but I'm thinking of Paul Shanley and the notes he wrote to the Boston bishop threatening blackmail if the bishop took Shanley off of his 'street prowling priest' job.
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Scary isn't it?
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Hey, I got here 3 minutes before you did.
Back of the line until he answers my question ;-)
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[Scary isn’t it?]
Scary in what way?
Not sure about this particular conspiracy theory, but the general idea of the threat of Ccommunist infiltration was/is real. In 1937, in the encyclical “Divini Redemptoris” Pope Pius XI forbade Catholics worldwide from any association with Communists, even socially. Later Pope Pius XII declared that professing or promoting Communism constitutes apostasy and that the sacraments must be refused to those who actively participate in Communist publications or propaganda.
In the glory days of the USSR, it was commonly thought among conservative intellectuals that the only two great institutions that could prevent Communist dominion of the world were the USA, of course, and the Catholic Church because of it’s antithesis to Communism, based on individual redemption, the sanctity of life, and God as the ultimate reality and source of truth.
Communism and Catholicism are diametrically opposed, as Pope John Paul II also pointed out, so it makes sense that the church would be a major target for the Communists. If we take a look at most of the bishops today, it’s not completely unbelievable that such a conspiracy of some sort, perhaps with unwitting collaborators of liberal social causes, has been at work for quite some time.
Do away with the Church.
Do away with the family.
Do away with society.
Look up Gramsci on the internet. You will be able to answer your own question.
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