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Jesuit University Refers Students to Abortion Mills
see for yourself ^ | 12/04/02 | pseudo-justin

Posted on 12/04/2002 9:51:50 AM PST by pseudo-justin

It seems that the University of San Francisco -- a college in the "Catholic" and "Jesuit" tradition-- is now in the business of referring students to Planned Parenthood and other abortion mills. See for yourself:

http://www.usfca.edu/shep/pregnancy.htm

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Would all freepers who are concerned about the state of Catholic higher education please let the Bishop of San Francisco, the California Province, and the University President (the "Jesuit" who suppressed the St. Ignatius Institute) know that this is unacceptable. It is unacceptable for the webiste of a "Catholic" school to refer women to Planned Parenthood. Your letters will make a difference...

Most Rev. William J. Levada mersont@sfarchdiocese.org

California Province Jesuits calprovsj@calprov.org

Stephen A. Privett S.J. privett@usfca.edu

1 posted on 12/04/2002 9:51:50 AM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: Polycarp; Salvation; patent; cebadams; Desdemona
Please ping the Catholic Caucus...
2 posted on 12/04/2002 9:54:48 AM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: nickcarraway
ping
3 posted on 12/04/2002 9:55:34 AM PST by Desdemona
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To: pseudo-justin; *Catholic_list; .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; ...
As requested...pinging
4 posted on 12/04/2002 10:15:08 AM PST by Polycarp
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To: Diago; narses; Loyalist; BlackElk; american colleen; saradippity; Polycarp; Dajjal; ...
Isn't this the same University of San Francisco that shut down the Ignatius Institute, the only genuinely Catholic part of the university? And aren't they the same ones that sent Fr. Fessio, founder of the Ignatius Institute, far away to be assistant chaplain at some hospital on the other side of the state?

If you check the links, you'll see that the Women's Clinic is just as bad as Planned Parenthood. And even the supposedly "Christian" counseling center offers "pre-abortion" counseling. Hopefully they try to talk the women out of it. But the pope definitively told the German bishops that Catholics can have nothing to do with facilitating abortion through "pre-abortion counseling," even if they claim they have good intentions.

These people seem to be just totally immune from any type of accountability. How can they get away with this? Maybe someone has a suggestion about how to apply some leverage.

It seems like it may be working with Loverde in Arlington. He didn't show up for his meeting with Fr. Haley claiming a scheduling conflict. But the protest by Roman Catholic Faithful was the headline story on the local news affiliate anyway.
5 posted on 12/04/2002 10:16:00 AM PST by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
Isn't this the same University of San Francisco that shut down the Ignatius Institute, the only genuinely Catholic part of the university? And aren't they the same ones that sent Fr. Fessio, founder of the Ignatius Institute, far away to be assistant chaplain at some hospital on the other side of the state?

yes, to both of the above. The California Province is the most decadent of all the S.J. provinces. The same province was also recently busted because some priests were molesting the mentally retarded kitchen help.

6 posted on 12/04/2002 10:22:17 AM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: pseudo-justin
See for yourself:

Normally I don't advocate the use of nuclear weapons, but...

7 posted on 12/04/2002 10:36:21 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Maximilian
In the late '50s,, a very liberal guy I knew at UT Austin got a job at San Francisco U. He was an ABD who called himself an agnostic. He wrote back saying he found himself right at home with the Jebbies. So It didn't start with VII.
8 posted on 12/04/2002 10:38:36 AM PST by RobbyS
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To: pseudo-justin
<> In my former life as a psychiatric social worker, I was once at a Staff Meeting for the Crisis Intervention program. We were discusssing various items and I mentioned "Anniversary dates," as a time the staff in our apartments needed to be vigilant about, especially when it came to clients who have had an abortion because on the "anniversary" of that date (or close to it) those clients frequently were disruptive or suicidal. I suggested we consider referrals to the local Project Rachel to help them cope with their, usually unacknowledged, guilt.

I was told by the Supervisor of this "Holy Innocents" Organistation , A Catholic Charities Organistation (located right next to Sacred Heart Church in Portland, Maine)that I had to "learn to deal with my issues about abortion," but that "Holy Innocents" would not only not refer to Project Rachel, they would continue to refer pregnant clients to Planned Parenthood for services.

I followed-up by asking if we should, similarly, refer our suicidal men to "The Hemlock Society" and the meeting became less than productive from then on.

I made my usual compliants up the chain of command and nothing was done. This was back in the 1980's.

I 'spose letters won't hurt but "How long, Lord?"<>

9 posted on 12/04/2002 10:44:31 AM PST by Catholicguy
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To: Maximilian
I'm waiting for Rome's apologists to tell me why it can't come down hard on these people--the way it came down hard on the FSSP--even firing their theologians and superior--only a scant year and a half ago--for not thinking with the "conciliar Church". Won't happen, of course. Any outrage is permitted, provided it doesn't involve traditionalists.
10 posted on 12/04/2002 10:51:25 AM PST by ultima ratio
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To: pseudo-justin; ProtectRUnborn; Mother of Eight; victim soul; Dr. Good Will Hunting; ...
Pro-life bump!

Let's let the e-mails fly:

Most Rev. William J. Levada mersont@sfarchdiocese.org

California Province Jesuits calprovsj@calprov.org

Stephen A. Privett S.J. privett@usfca.edu


11 posted on 12/04/2002 11:24:26 AM PST by Diago
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To: Diago; ProtectRUnborn; Mother of Eight; victim soul; Dr. Good Will Hunting; Polycarp; Salvation; ...
I just received an e-reply from Fr. Privett, President of USF. He wrote:

"I am referring your email to Dr. Margaret Higgins, the Vice President for University Life. Student health services are directly under her. I expect that you will receive a response of her office regarding your concern about Planned Parenthood's being accessible through USF's website. I appreciate your calling this to our attention.

Stephen A. Privett, SJ"

Well, now it is time to send Dr. Margaret Higgins an e-flood of fraternal correction before she even hears from Fr. Privett:

mmhiggins@usfca.edu

12 posted on 12/04/2002 11:44:58 AM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: RobbyS
He wrote back saying he found himself right at home with the Jebbies.

What an awful state the Jebbies are in. They need to clean house.

13 posted on 12/04/2002 11:48:11 AM PST by ThomasMore
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To: Catholicguy
see post #12
14 posted on 12/04/2002 11:51:38 AM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: pseudo-justin
on it. that's sick.
15 posted on 12/04/2002 11:57:45 AM PST by WriteOn
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To: ThomasMore
I think that it should be suppressed.
16 posted on 12/04/2002 12:06:41 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: pseudo-justin
Well, now it is time to send Dr. Margaret Higgins an e-flood of fraternal correction before she even hears from Fr. Privett:

I sent mine, and bcc'd to the right folks so that it will get sent out all over too.

17 posted on 12/04/2002 12:06:53 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Maximilian
This problem of Jesuit abortion referrals is not limited to the despicable Privett, SJ, or San Francisco University, once Catholic and now merely Jesuit, but is also a problem right across from Cardinal Law at Boston College. They educated me but it is time to suppress the order as it was surpressed several centuries ago. Wait fifty years and start over with actual Catholics.
18 posted on 12/04/2002 12:07:13 PM PST by BlackElk
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To: BlackElk
This problem of Jesuit abortion referrals is not limited to the despicable Privett, SJ, or San Francisco University, once Catholic and now merely Jesuit, but is also a problem right across from Cardinal Law at Boston College.

Yes, it is true of virtually every Jesuit college. Before he wrote "Goodbye Good Men," Michael Rose exposed the unbelievable heresy being taught to all freshmen in Theology 101 at Xavier University in Cincinnati. It went beyond the usual touchy-feely stuff to outright denial of every element of the New Testament. And the chairman of the department belonged to the execrable Daniel Maguire's "Religious Coalition for Reproductive Rights."

19 posted on 12/04/2002 12:12:11 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: Diago
Pro -Life B U M P
20 posted on 12/04/2002 12:13:49 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: RobbyS
That may be the only answer.
21 posted on 12/04/2002 12:13:57 PM PST by ThomasMore
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To: Maximilian
These people seem to be just totally immune from any type of accountability. How can they get away with this? Maybe someone has a suggestion about how to apply some leverage.

Folks need to vote with their wallets and not send their kids to these institutions! A friend of our has had two sons go through a supposedly Catholic college, Fairfield U. in CT. He says neither one of them goes to Church anymore! Come to think of it, Fairfield is also a Jesuit Univ.; do I detect a pattern here?

BTW, Fr. Fessio is now Chancellor of a NEW Catholic University. It is Ave Maria University, and it will be built, along with a new town, also called Ave Maria, near Naples FL. It is designed to be a University with decidedly orthodox Catholic underpinnings. I hope it will be well supported by Catholics all over the country, but especially in the South!

22 posted on 12/04/2002 12:16:27 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
A friend of our has had two sons go through a supposedly Catholic college, Fairfield U. in CT. He says neither one of them goes to Church anymore!

I made the monumental error of sending my 2 oldest boys to a Jesuit high school. I knew the Jesuits were pretty liberal these days, but my grandfather had graduated from a Jesuit high school, as had my father, my self and my brothers. I wanted the tradition to continue.

If I had any idea how bad it would be, I never would have done it. The religion class was using Daniel Maguire as an expert in moral theology. This is the guy from Marquette (another Jesuit university) who was the most famous pro-abortion priest until he left the priesthood and got married. Then he got divorced and married again. But his first wife would follow him around to his speaking engagements and call him a "spiritual rapist." He tried to get an injunction to stop her, but the judge ruled that he couldn't prevent her from attending events that were open to the public.

I documented all the evidence on Maguire (there was lots more), and sent it to the Religion teacher and asked him to stop using Daniel Maguire as a teacher of moral theology. He refused to do so.

At the graduation ceremony, the obviously "light in the loafers" priest-president told us parents that the big accomplishments of the past 4 years were increasing affirmative action and being more open to homosexuality.

As I mentioned on another thread,

we're now home-schooling and I'm working on getting these two back into the life of faith, but it's going to be a lot of work to make up for the huge mistake of sending them to a Jesuit school.

23 posted on 12/04/2002 12:37:45 PM PST by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
It's always difficult to know what Catholic schools are solid and which are not. I have two girls in grammar school and we decided to send them to a generic Christian school. (We also go to church every Sunday and they attend Catechism weekly). The main reason was that so many Catholic schools stick in environmental propaganda and social liberalism, and then ignore moral conservatism which coincides with Catholic moral theology.

I keep on top of the school -- of which about 25% of the children are Catholic because there is no nearby Catholic school -- to make sure that no teacher is anti-Catholic (or at least teaching it) and I also make sure that my girls have a solid understanding of the Catholic faith so that if something comes up, they will come to me with questions.

Anyway, the primary reason we sent them to this school was because it was conservative. We didn't have to worry about environmental propaganda or social liberalism or anything else. They teach a solid moral foundation. While their bible is missing seven books (and parts of two others!), my girls are getting a solid background in Scripture ... something many Catholic schools don't even do!

I don't know what I'm going to do for high school. I'm hesitant about keeping them at the generic Christian school because high school is the time all their friends will be "accepting Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior", yada yada, and I don't want them to get sucked into that, but we have four Catholic high schools in the area: two all girls, one co-ed (but in a bad area) and one Jesuit (we have a younger son as well). Maybe we'll move and I'll have more choices ... I don't know.

Until then ...

24 posted on 12/04/2002 1:04:15 PM PST by Gophack
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To: pseudo-justin
Also, you can send a message to the University itself at http://www.usfca.edu/online/contact_us/contact.html
25 posted on 12/04/2002 1:17:57 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: pseudo-justin
Excellent work.
26 posted on 12/04/2002 1:20:12 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: Stingray51
thanks
27 posted on 12/04/2002 2:03:57 PM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: Gophack
"... because high school is the time all their friends will be 'accepting Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior', yada yada, and I don't want them to get sucked into that ..."

You would deflect/deny such a close relationship with Christ? What's wrong with you?

28 posted on 12/04/2002 2:07:30 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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To: Ex-Wretch
Absolutely not. I have a lot of respect for my Protestant brothers and sister. However, as a Catholic raising my children to be Catholic, they already HAVE a personal relationship with Jesus Christ when they died with him in Baptism. As I have explained to my older daughter, we have been saved (through Baptism), are being saved (through the grace of God), and hope to be saved (when we die). However, we DON'T believe that the only thing we must do to be saved is to declare once that Jesus is our personal Lord and Savior and be done with it. Salvation is an on-going process, a continual renewal of faith, a constant gift of grace from God, that we must repeatedly accept and live from now until we die.

But, reading back to my post, I realize that what I wrote sounded derogatory, and I apologize for that. I have many Protestant friends who are good and Christ-filled people. I simply believe that Protestants are missing out on the fullness of Christian faith.

God bless.

29 posted on 12/04/2002 3:18:31 PM PST by Gophack
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To: pseudo-justin
please let the Bishop of San Francisco

From what I hear from priests in Levada's diocese he is always in Rome getting friendly with everyone. His goal is to be appointed to head one of the important Congregations.

He may be unwilling to take on USF because that would indicate to Rome that all is not perfect in his diocese.

30 posted on 12/04/2002 3:20:50 PM PST by pbear8
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To: Gophack
Now I get it. And, I am in full agreement with you that if all people do is make some "intellectual" profession for Christ ... it's just so much hot air. Truly, to be born again is a real, life-changing experience and the change must be in the heart, not the head.

As to the fulness issue you mentioned, I was born and raised RC in the Dominican traditions through HS. Gotta tell you that I never had any relationship with the Lord no matter how many masses, novenas, sacraments I was a part of. It never really caught up with me until my early thirties, after I was married with 3 kids and a successful career. It wasn't until I came to grips with life's basic questions that I realized that I really could know Jesus like the apostles did. I wanted that. That's when I finally got serious with God. My whole life changed when I finally asked Jesus to come into my life, sit on my heart's throne and make Himself real to me. WOW!!!! That was 19 years ago. It was a life-changing experience :)

31 posted on 12/04/2002 3:46:07 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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To: Diago
Thanks for the ping Diago
32 posted on 12/04/2002 3:46:09 PM PST by firewalk
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To: Ex-Wretch
I agree with you, we have had similar experiences. I was baptized Catholic but not really raised Catholic. It wasn't until I got married and had kids -- I was pregnant with my third -- when I got the desire to go back to Church. I haven't willingly missed a Sunday since, and I am much closer to God through His son today than I was growing up.

However, I stayed in the Catholic Church and have found the fullness and richness of the faith that I never knew growing up. It may have been bad Catechisis, or the fact that I was never made to go to Church and had no one in my life who was religious, or whatever, but I did make a conscious decision to go back to Church and I have felt more complete now than I did in the first 30 years of my life.

When I went to confession for the first time since my First Holy Communion, I felt like the weight of the world had been lifted off my shoulders, and Jesus was truly with me, at that moment. It was an awesome experience.

God bless.

33 posted on 12/04/2002 3:59:20 PM PST by Gophack
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To: ultima ratio
I'm waiting for Rome's apologists to tell me why it can't come down hard on these people--the way it came down hard on the FSSP--even firing their theologians and superior--only a scant year and a half ago--for not thinking with the "conciliar Church".

Dittoes

34 posted on 12/04/2002 4:20:45 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Maximilian
Maximilian, just to let you know: It may be called per-abortion counseling because some of the women are considering abortion, but it isn't the same as what was going on in Germany. First Resort counsels women on alternatives to abortion. If the woman decides to get the abortion anyway, they DO NOT refer them to a clinic. They stop about half the women they see from having abortions. They also have abstinence education programs for children and young adults.
35 posted on 12/04/2002 4:25:06 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: pseudo-justin
I didn't need this news to realize many factions of the RCC has already been heavily influenced by the Underworld.
36 posted on 12/04/2002 4:32:13 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Diago
I'll bet that's also happening at Seattle University, another good university gone to the dogs!
37 posted on 12/04/2002 5:33:46 PM PST by caisson71
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To: pbear8; Polycarp; Salvation; patent; Desdemona; Diago; cebadams; Gophack; nickcarraway; WriteOn; ...
I just received my e-reply from Dr. Margaret Higgins -- the Vice President for Student Life at USF. She writes:

"Thank you very much for bringing this important matter to our attention. I have scheduled a series of meetings with the people in charge of student health care to discuss the criteria used in deciding to include links to Planned Parenthood. Based on those meetings, we will make a decision on the accessibility of information.

Sincerely,

Margaret M. Higgins"

Obviously, they know they have a problem --if only a P.R. problem. At any rate, thanks to all who sent e-mails, and if you have not, please send one. The message is getting through--at least it is echoing around in some hollow heads. I mean if you need a meeting to figure out that this is an attack on the dignity of the human person, then heads must be hollow indeed.

As for Pbear8's claim that Levada is trying to climb the ladder, well, it does not follow that we should not swamp him with e-mails. God will judge Levada based on how Levada responds to our e-mails, and He will judge us based on whether we write to Levada at all. Sins of omission are possible on all sides of this one

And as for F16Fighter's claim that this is a sign that the Underworld is active in the Catholic Church...well, duh. The devil is prowling about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. F16Fighter seems to think that Protestants are exempt from Peter's warning.

40 posted on 12/04/2002 6:18:59 PM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: pseudo-justin
I have learned that public humiliation through bad publicity is the only thing that works with these guys. We need to e-mail the Bishop and the President of the school, but also Catholic and pro-life media outlets. When the publicity stops, these guys stop worrying about us.
41 posted on 12/04/2002 6:29:38 PM PST by Diago
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To: Diago
but also Catholic and pro-life media outlets

great idea Diago

Here is the e-mail address for California Right to Life:

callife@calright2life.org

if anyone knows the e-mail addresses for other relevant groups or outlets, please post them

42 posted on 12/04/2002 6:41:59 PM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: pseudo-justin
I have scheduled a series of meetings ... to discuss the criteria used in deciding to include links to Planned Parenthood. Based on those meetings, we will make a decision on the accessibility of information.

Don't expect much if anything from this. This is babel-speak. She really means that she will begin developing a list of reasons for including Planned Parenthood links. Then she will publish that list. Link stays.

43 posted on 12/04/2002 7:02:49 PM PST by cebadams
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To: GatorGirl; tiki; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
Ping
44 posted on 12/04/2002 7:31:41 PM PST by narses
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To: pseudo-justin; nickcarraway; Polycarp; Gophack
After seeing this, I decided to take a look at Jesuit Santa Clara University's website, where my whole family attended. It's about 60 miles south of University of San Francisco, and is the school USF President Fr. Privett worked before he went to USF.

Not only does SCU tout that one of their links will connect you to Planned Parenthood, their whole health links section is full of new age anti-intellectual nonsense! :-( Here it is: SCU links

45 posted on 12/04/2002 7:36:28 PM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: sandyeggo
"The Hound of Heaven" never stops looking for His lost sheep.
46 posted on 12/04/2002 8:56:26 PM PST by victim soul
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To: pseudo-justin
"Thank you very much for bringing this important matter to our attention. I have scheduled a series of meetings with the people in charge of student health care to discuss the criteria used in deciding to include links to Planned Parenthood. Based on those meetings, we will make a decision on the accessibility of information. Sincerely, Margaret M. Higgins'

Sounds like Higgins is interested in the criteria for linking to Planned Parenthood.
If she was the right person for this position, she would KNOW that a link to Planned Parenthood from a Catholic University is NOT acceptable.
Sounds like the pressure needs to be up the chain.
48 posted on 12/04/2002 9:55:18 PM PST by unequallawsuntoasavagerace
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To: cebadams
Link stays

I first sent the link to some Jebbie friends of mine-- who are solid. So they were pissed. They sent word to other Jebbies, who sent word to others. It is flying all over the assistancy now, so I hear, and so now there is going to be an internal fight in the S.J. Soon, they hope, Neuhaus will get word of it, and so it might go into the Public Square of "First Things". At any rate, recently a good Jesuit at Saint Louis University -- another Jesuit school--learned that SLU had Planned Parenthood links on their website and he raised hell. The links are gone now... What we need is bad publicity pressure from without and S.J. pressure from within. Then maybe...

49 posted on 12/04/2002 10:01:30 PM PST by pseudo-justin
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To: unequallawsuntoasavagerace
see #49
50 posted on 12/04/2002 10:02:48 PM PST by pseudo-justin
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