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Utah Baby Names (That distinctive name that says, "I'm Mormon.")
The Utah Baby Namer ^ | Wes and Cari Clark

Posted on 01/24/2003 4:41:20 PM PST by A.J.Armitage

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To: Illbay
Pres. Hinckley uses the private aircraft of Jon Huntsman, CEO of Huntsman Corp. and a member of the Church.

LOL so of course you too have access to that jet as a good and faithful mormon...orrrrrrrrrrrr could it be that it is a PERK??

The income the Church derives from tithing and other sources including business holdings goes directly to operating expenses, with little wasted on frippery.

LOL "other business holdings".Purchased with your tithe and managed for FREE right? Or could it be they PAY a management team? And who is on that PAID management team?. Any family of the pope..err I mean prophet? Your church is a business and if you do not think the men at the top benefit from all this wealth and power you are foolish..

Your"full time "leaders do not eat for free ..or drive a car for free..

421 posted on 01/30/2003 1:46:08 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Utah Girl
Read the bio of Karol Joseph Wojtyla someday.Prez Hinckley sounds like a brave man.He has ratty furniture?
422 posted on 01/30/2003 1:52:41 PM PST by Codie
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To: drstevej
I think I'd worry less about Joseph's sins, and more about your own. Joseph has his reward, and will be judging YOU one day.

You'd better worry about what he has to say. After all, he's in charge of YOUR dispensation.

Be very, very, very afraid.

423 posted on 01/30/2003 1:58:00 PM PST by Illbay
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To: RnMomof7
Not gods: PROPHETS.

Those who profess to follow Christ must follow His prophets.

Today you reject them. Had you lived in Christ's time, you would have screamed for Barrabas.

That's just a FACT.

424 posted on 01/30/2003 1:59:41 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Utah Girl
UC one of the things that Mormons are taught to distain is a "paid clergy" What that means for most churches is far less than your church president..

The last church I attended the "preacher" was a post man and took no salary..the church before that the full time pastor had a wife and 5 daughters and a grand salary of $25,000 a year..He left a job that paid him over $100,000 to come to the ministry..he was available 24/7 to his people

Most Christian Pastors work a full time job and their wives work..they get a token salary ..(Pastor Jerry that posts here is a bi vocational pastor )

They do not have people to do work on their homes or have jets to fly on or the money to charter a plane...UC any of us can go out of our way not to look wealthy..but it is my guess that your President is not starving..does he have a full time job? Where does his income come from..or may only the wealthy aspire to be a prophet and president..is is a position that a poor guy could never hold?

I have no problem with paying a Pastor..as the bible tells us a "workman is worthy of his hire"...

Most of the outlandish wealth you see (other then the charlatons) Was self generated by books or tapes ..not paid for by tithes

425 posted on 01/30/2003 1:59:58 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Codie
Gee something we agree on ...He was a brave man
426 posted on 01/30/2003 2:02:19 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Sorry, you're not going to find evil where there is none. Pres. Bush flies around at YOUR expense; are you furious about that?

Pres. Hinckley doesn't even fly around at MY expense, and you're hot under the collar?

Oh, here you are; I found you:

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!--Isa. 5: 20

Repent, woman, repent.

427 posted on 01/30/2003 2:02:39 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Where does the prophet/pope get the money to pay the heat and put food on the table? Can any member fly in that corporation jet? (I think that is perks bill:>)
428 posted on 01/30/2003 2:06:10 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
UC one of the things that Mormons are taught to distain is a "paid clergy" What that means for most churches is far less than your church president.

Since you have NO IDEA what you're talking about...NONE!...I think you ought to get off this schtick. You just sound mean and ugly.

ONE MINISTER of one of the Chri$tian megachurches in the Houston area makes many times the allowance Pres. Hinckley gets for living expenses.

Billy Graham and his entourage consume a hundred times more in one year than do all the LDS general authorities put together, in terms of expenses for their lavish theatrical productions they call "crusades."

You and your "Chri$tian" ilk are hypocrites of the worst stripe, and you WILL pay for it one day, if you do not repent.

429 posted on 01/30/2003 2:06:27 PM PST by Illbay
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To: RnMomof7
And he has ratty furniture.DO SUMFIN?
430 posted on 01/30/2003 2:14:05 PM PST by Codie
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To: Illbay
ONE MINISTER of one of the Chri$tian megachurches in the Houston area makes many times the allowance Pres. Hinckley gets for living expenses.

Ohhhh he does not get a "salary", he gets an "allowance"...so what is included in the 'living allowance' ? Housing"?Utilities? Auto? (all belonging to the church and not taxable? Unlike the income of the pastor of the mega church..)..How much walking around spending money does he get? (More than the $25,000 that the pastor with the 5 kids gets?)

Bill changing the name from salary to "allowance" does not make him "unpaid clergy"....It just means that none of you REALLY know his income..or his wifes or kids that work for the church..

Billy Graham and his entourage consume a hundred times more in one year than do all the LDS general authorities put together, in terms of expenses for their lavish theatrical productions they call "crusades."

I hold no brief for Billy Graham..but much of his PERSONAL income is from books and soforth..and if we want to talk about lavish hey the temple in Salt lake ain't bad..and as far as productions go I have seen your choir..it is pot ..kettle ....black....

431 posted on 01/30/2003 2:15:46 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Codie
That is TRUE sacrifice
432 posted on 01/30/2003 2:16:38 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; Illbay

Speaking of Temples....

No snappy comeback on by temple posts awhile ago???
433 posted on 01/30/2003 2:20:42 PM PST by Elsie (I trust in Jesus.... THOUSANDS OF EXISTING MANUSCRIPTS speak of Him!)
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To: RnMomof7
Hm. An officer in the U.S. military gets a living expense. Now you want THEM out on their ears as well?

Or do you think it strange that the church might reimburse someone who is using their own resources in the service of the Church?

Do you tithe? Do you claim tithing on your taxes?

Are you as foolish as you appear?

434 posted on 01/30/2003 2:22:26 PM PST by Illbay
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To: RnMomof7
The "lavish stuff" the Church has are income CONSUMING. They are for the edification of the world--yes, even an ingrate such as yourself.

The Church donates time, resources, supplies and manpower to worthy causes the world over, including Catholic Charities and many Protestant initiatives.

Again, you're trying to impute evil where there is none. You'd best turn your attention closer to home; somewhere another Robert Tilton, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker or Benny Hinn is ripping off thousands of people in the false name of God.

435 posted on 01/30/2003 2:26:02 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
I think we are alot smarter than you think ..if it looks like a Duck and it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck..you my man have a paid clergy..

BTW I have no problem with that..I believe it is scripitual ..if you guys want him to be a paulper or live like a king it is your dime...just do not think we are so stupid to believe he lives on nothing..my guess is that "allowance " when all the perks are added in is quite handsome ..I have seen his suits (or are they on an expense account? )

Does anyone in your church have the total compensation package or is it a secret?

436 posted on 01/30/2003 2:29:29 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Illbay
FYI ..we have the same list of crooks that call themselves "clergy"...
437 posted on 01/30/2003 2:30:41 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Illbay; RnMomof7
You'll find a ton of Christians who look upon those four witht the same disdain you do.
438 posted on 01/30/2003 2:51:54 PM PST by Wrigley
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To: Illbay
The Church donates time, resources, supplies and manpower to worthy causes the world over, including Catholic Charities

Name the Catholic Charities?

439 posted on 01/30/2003 2:52:18 PM PST by Codie
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To: Illbay; RnMomof7; Jean Chauvin
And those same Christians who look upon Benny Hinn with disdain see Joseph Smith in much the same light.

A charlatan mocking the name of the Lord. A false teacher teaching a false gospel.
440 posted on 01/30/2003 2:59:15 PM PST by Wrigley
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