A gif for Elsie!
Posted on 01/24/2003 4:41:20 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
Yet if you read this same words in a novel about a father and son you would not put them in the same spiritual forum.
It is a fact Jesus has a resurrected Body of Flesh and Bone! So if he is the Son of Heavenly Father, His Father to would have a Body of Flesh and Bone! It is you guys that reject logic!
The Bible teaches that to reveal Himself to mortal man, the Second Person of the Trinity humbled Himself, and took on flesh, and became a Man - John 1:14
And the Man, the Second Adam, died on a Cross for you and me, to take away our sin, and to make available to us eternal life.
Luke 24
36 ¶ And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
(those who die are spirit and Jesus is explaining that he has a resurrected body not like those who die and had to wait to receive the resurrected body)
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
49 ¶ And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
50 ¶ And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them.
51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
52 And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:
53 And were continually in the temple, praising and blessing God. Amen.
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Now who has a Spirit?
1-Pre-Existent spirit
2-Fallen angels like Lucifer! will never receive a body of Flesh and Bone
3-Those who pass on are leave their mortal body and are Spirits until Judgement Day
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Who has an immortal Body?
1-Jesus has a resurrected body of Flesh and Bone
2-Two angels men in Sodam during the time of Lot
3-Those who rose from the grave after the resurrection of Jesus.
4-Two Angels that were there when Jesus accendant to Heaven!
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The Father and Son are one in mind.
The Son Talks to the Father and the Heavenly Father talks to the Son.
The Father said this is my beloved Son hear him.
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John 4
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him MUST worship him in spirit and in truth.
So we to MUST worship God in SPIRIT! Our Spirits are to worship God.(we are also Spirit and body of Flesh and Blood!
1Tim. 1
17 Now unto the King ETERNAL, IMMORTAL, IMVISIBLE, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen
Now we read that the Heavenly Father is -
1- Eternal
2- Immortal
3- Invisible
The light of the Heavenly Father is so bright that you could not endur seeing him in you natural form.
Jesus is -
1- Eternal- (so are our spirits eternal)
2- Immortal
3- Invisible- Now we would have to be taken up not in our natural state to see him.
The Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary defines 'eisegesis' as: an interpretation, esp. of Scripture, that expresses the interpreter's own ideas, bias, or the like, rather than the meaning of the text.
To continue this thread with you would make me guilty of casting "pearls before swine."
Enjoy your twisted, tortured re-interpretation of Scripture. My guess, if you are like most Mormons,is that none of what you have said is based on your own thinking, but has been fed to you by false prophets, who are anit-Christ.
So, barring some amazing twist, I am through on this thread.
Our prophets and our apostles are some of the most profoundly wise men ever put on this planet.
Which group comes in second, the Imperial Wizards of the Ku Klux Klan?
Ah, racism is beside the point.
The real issue is, is the Mormon Jesus the real Jesus? It's been argued over, here and elsewhere. But I don't think anyone's yet asked a simple question. If the Mormon Jesus isn't the real Jesus, who is he?
Consider:
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:44)
And
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I had said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any hand pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them to me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one. (John 10:25-30And who do the Mormons attribute the above teachings to?
Joe Smith flipped Jesus and Satan.
The Mormon Jesus is Satan.
As the_doc would say, Mormons are caught in a weird trap: they worship Satan, and they don't even know it.
Can the blind lead the blind? Shall they not both fall into a ditch? (Luke 6:39b)
To continue this thread with you would make me guilty of casting "pearls before swine."
Amazing how many "Self-Righteous Puffy Clergy" there are on this forum!
Please give some documentation to back up your assertions.
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