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Utah Baby Names (That distinctive name that says, "I'm Mormon.")
The Utah Baby Namer ^ | Wes and Cari Clark

Posted on 01/24/2003 4:41:20 PM PST by A.J.Armitage

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To: CCWoody
Most people are put off by the actual words of the Scriptures.

Most "Chri$tian$" such as yourself IGNORE most of the scriptures, picking and choosing those they will embrace, and putting aside the great majority because they are "too hard" to live and "too hard" to understand.

By your slim pickins' I see you are one of those.

I pity you.

401 posted on 01/30/2003 7:03:19 AM PST by Illbay
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To: RnMomof7
As you know, and will lie through your teeth to deny, our prophets and apostles are NOTHING like the "princes of the Church" in Roman Catholicism. They are not "career Chri$tian$" like the blood-suckers that I have known all my life, growing up in the South.

In all cases, they are men with jobs and families, who have taken out of their own time and that of their precious families, the time needed to administer the Lord's church.

Make no mistake about it: This is the TRUE CHURCH on the Earth, beside which all others are mere pale imitations, having a form of godliness but DENYING the power thereof.

Our prophets and our apostles are some of the most profoundly wise men ever put on this planet.

You might take the time to read some of their words, which are freely available HERE. There you will read nothing but the words of life and salvation, and the wisdom contained in those words will forever silence and confound the likes of you who battle against God and His Christ, which is what you are about every time you post here.

Make no mistake: To the extent you realize the evil you perpetrate, you WILL pay the uttermost farthing.

You might want to start trembling NOW.

402 posted on 01/30/2003 7:10:09 AM PST by Illbay
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To: RnMomof7
Open your eyes man.. these LDS prophets get plenty of "perks" ..lots more than a pathetic Christian Pastor 's salary....

What an odd comparison: A minister with a prophet.

Why don't you try some HONEST discussion for a change? It'd be refreshing.

Why don't you compare an LDS Bishop with someone like Ed Young, "pastor" of that great whited sepulchre, Houston Second Baptist?

That'd be FAR more appropriate.

Oh, and Bishops aren't "bivocational." They give of their time and talents, without so much as a farthing in payment, to administer the needs of their congregations. And they do so without having to attend these silly Chri$tian "seminaries" and such as that.

Having the truth, they need no indoctrination.

Your comparisons are lame at best.

403 posted on 01/30/2003 7:13:00 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Wrigley
"A single glimpse beyond the veil reveals more of heaven and its laws than all the sermons of uninspired preachers combined." --Elder Bruce R. McConkie, "The Mortal Messiah: From Bethlehem to Calvary," 4 vols. [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1979-1981], 1: 370.
404 posted on 01/30/2003 7:38:03 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
 
I pity you.
 
Ok.....
 

 
KJV Luke 18:10-14
 10.  Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
 11.  The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
 12.  I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
 13.  And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
 14.  I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

405 posted on 01/30/2003 7:40:24 AM PST by Elsie (I trust in Jesus.... THOUSANDS OF EXISTING MANUSCRIPTS speak of Him!)
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To: Illbay
The veil was torn.
406 posted on 01/30/2003 7:40:44 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: RnMomof7
Bet he flys in a "church owned "jet...

You lose.

Pres. Hinckley uses the private aircraft of Jon Huntsman, CEO of Huntsman Corp. and a member of the Church.

The Church's penury with respect to its daily operations is famous. These aren't cushy jobs with "perks." The income the Church derives from tithing and other sources including business holdings goes directly to operating expenses, with little wasted on frippery.

407 posted on 01/30/2003 7:42:52 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Wrigley
Oh, so you're seeing God and all His angels RIGHT NOW, are you?

Does your therapist know about this?

408 posted on 01/30/2003 7:43:43 AM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
Swallowing the Chri$tian lie means ignoring SOME things Christ wrote in favor of others. ~ Illbay And FWIW, those who profess Christ AND seek to keep His commandments, including the dictum to "be perfect" (meaning as perfect as we are able to be given our level of knowledge) are able to have eternal life, which is life EXACTLY LIKE our Father has. ~ Illbay, who secret desire is to "be like the Most High" In that case, the LDS knowledge does not discard faith, but realizes that faith is NOTHING (that is, "dead," as James states) without the effort to obey the commandments. ~ Illbay Woody.
409 posted on 01/30/2003 8:15:44 AM PST by CCWoody
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To: Illbay
Not having His wisdom, I cannot judge. ~ Illbay Woody.

"He who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one." ~ 1 Co 2:15
410 posted on 01/30/2003 8:22:38 AM PST by CCWoody
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To: Illbay; drstevej; Jean Chauvin; Wrigley
"A single glimpse beyond the veil reveals more of heaven... ~ Illbay Woody.
411 posted on 01/30/2003 8:28:29 AM PST by CCWoody
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To: Illbay
Perhaps that's better advice directed to you prophets.
412 posted on 01/30/2003 8:41:19 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: P-Marlowe; Illbay; White Mountain; CubicleGuy; Utah Girl; rising tide; Grig; Rad_J
I love it a play on words!

You missed the point the places I been to growing up had an outline of the Lord. I was looking for Jesus Christ and he did have his own Church. Not the Church of St Steven or Peter. But Jesus House of Worship!

I read about it in the Bible is the path I was looking for!

Matt.7
13 ¶ Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15 ¶ Beware of *false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. (*Do as I say crowd,not as I do)

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. *Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?(*distort truth, slopful, don't keep the Lord commandments)

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; *but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.(* Ignores keeping the Lord commandments)

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a *corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.(* mock and continue to use "The Ends Justify The Means!")

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore *by their fruits ye shall know them.

***

(Gal.5
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24 And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another

***

21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
(because though one say they believe really did not enter into the Striaght and Narrow gate! You all were having a free for all, with the various parts of the Lords doctrine, that is why there are over ten of thousands CHINOS- Chirsitian In Name Only!

24 ¶ Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

( a few years back there was a tornado in SLC and it torn many building to pieces, they have a video of the SL Temple inside was a wedding taking place out side was the tornado swriling all around the House of the Lord and nothing was harmed!

28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:

29 For he taught them as one having *authority, and not as the scribes.(at that time Jesus gave his authority to Peter until the preisthood was again from the earth an in the Latter Days when the priesthood was restored he gave the authority to Joseph Smith in this last and final dispensation!

I found all of the thing the Bible spoke about the Straight and Narrow path in

"The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints!"

I had enough so call of worship that -

"Do as I say, not as I do!" Who say they can't even "Keep The Lords Commandments" for in your minds it is impossible, or unable ot discern the Holy Spirit! for they lack faith. You folks have the weakest Spiritual Muscle of Faith I have ever witness!

413 posted on 01/30/2003 8:44:33 AM PST by restornu (I am a child of God:)
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To: CCWoody
But their search makes them sooooo secure.
414 posted on 01/30/2003 8:50:20 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: drstevej; Jean Chauvin; Wrigley; RnMomof7; CCWoody
Ping
415 posted on 01/30/2003 9:12:10 AM PST by restornu (I am a child of God:)
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To: restornu
Did you think we missed it?
416 posted on 01/30/2003 9:14:19 AM PST by Wrigley
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To: restornu
Repent.

***Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.***

Like Joe Smith telling his wife either accept my god-given mistresses or face eternal damnation.
417 posted on 01/30/2003 9:17:10 AM PST by drstevej
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To: RnMomof7
You're wrong there. President Hinckley will take a chartered jet. When he was invited to the White House after 9/11 in 2001 for that meeting with President Bush with leaders from other faiths, Jon Huntsman used HIS own private jet to fly President Hinckley back to Washington DC. I know where President Hinckley lives, yes, it is very nice, but nothing outlandishly lavish. My brother worked on the plans of the building he lives in, and has been in the apartment. President Hinckley has his own den, with furniture there that he built with his own hands when he and his wife were first married. My brother said that there was this old ratty couch and a small fridge in the den also. Most of the leaders of the LDS church do not have money, and do receive, if necessary, some money to live. But they are frugal, because they know it is the Lord's money and they will be held accountable for how they spend it. I know this firsthand. I know how hard they work and how much they sacrifice for the gospel of Jesus Christ. There are no hidden perks.
418 posted on 01/30/2003 11:25:03 AM PST by Utah Girl (Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his way!!!)
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To: Elsie
We can't do it all but we sure can learn how to exercise and strengthen the Spiritual muscle!

But we sure WISH we could!

***

Wish you could do what?

419 posted on 01/30/2003 11:58:43 AM PST by restornu (I am a child of God:)
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To: Illbay
As you know, and will lie through your teeth to deny, our prophets and apostles are NOTHING like the "princes of the Church" in Roman Catholicism. They are not "career Chri$tian$" like the blood-suckers that I have known all my life, growing up in the South.

Naw I am not trembling Bill...Your pope prophet is a god to you..not to me..

Most Christian Ministers have jobs and families and do not have church jets to fly around in and they are not looking to a harem in heaven to meet their Celestial eternal sexual fantasy needs..They are looking to worshipping the one TRUE God...

420 posted on 01/30/2003 1:36:15 PM PST by RnMomof7
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