The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Operation Carthage (3/21/1945) - Jan. 2nd, 2004

www.milhist.dk ^ | Klaus Velschow

[snippy_about_it]

I've already played it Ginger. Ya' skeeered or somethin'?

ROTFLOL. Darn right I'm skeered. I have a feeling I'm going to regret it if I do.

[SAMWolf]

It made a good Night fighter but flopped as a "twin engine" fighter. It was so bad that during the Battle of Britain at one point the ME-110's were escorted by Me-109's.

[SAMWolf]

Yeah and it's out on DVD now too. On my list of DVD's to get.

[SAMWolf]

I know a few planes slam into a hill during the final mission, and I think one does during the training for the raid.

[WaterDragon]

Those were incredible pilots, snippy! It isn't so easy to pick one building out of many, from the air, under such pressure. And the resisting Danes too were brave in begging for such a raid, knowing that some would be killed in it. The foxhole stories have made me keenly aware of what we really owe to American and British military throughout our history as well as today.

Good Friday morning to all in the foxhole today!

[Professional Engineer]

I know what to hint at for Father's Day now.

[SAMWolf]

Good morning, WaterDragon.

[SAMWolf]

I 've already dropped my hints.

[snippy_about_it]

The foxhole stories have made me keenly aware of what we really owe to American and British military throughout our history as well as today.

Thank you WaterDragon for those kind words, it's the Foxhole's mission and we are learning right along with the rest of the Foxhole "family".

[Colonel_Flagg]

Good morning, all!

Work is frantic for me at the first of the year, so sorry for the extended absence of late. This thread is an unusually interesting read. Thank you as always!

[SAMWolf]

Thanks Colonel Flagg.

Don't worry about being "too busy", drop in when you can, you're always welcome.

[Central_Floridian]

I don't want to nitpick, but aren't you thinking of the Bf-109 and Bf-110?

[Darksheare]

Welcome.
See you when you get more time to chat.

[Central_Floridian]

Didn't the Germans use the Ju-88 alot like the RAF used the Mosquito?

[Central_Floridian]

Sorry about the previous post, the Bf-109 and 110 were both made by Messerschitt (Me). I had never seen them called "Me"s before though.
By the way, this was a great foxhole thread.

[Darksheare]

Ahh.
Okers.

[snippy_about_it]

When I was first learning about the 109's I was confused too. It's understandable.

Trust me though, SAMWolf rarely makes a mistake, he knows his stuff, imo. Of course I'm partial to him as my partner but I think as time goes by you'll see he is pretty darn reliable. ;-)

The Foxhole is lucky enough to have very informed readers and contributors join us and we are all hopefully learning something together from the threads and from each other, stick around and you'll see.

[SAMWolf]

Yep. But the designation most people understand is "Me" tell them "Bf" and you get a blanker stare than when you say "Me"

[SAMWolf]

The Messerschmitt Bf 109 began as an entry by the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke in a Luftwaffe (German Air Force) fighter competition in the early 1930's. Willy Messerschmitt's creation incorporated one of the most advanced aerodynamic designs at the time, with retractable landing gear, an enclosed cockpit, automatic slats, cantilever wings, and stressed skin construction. During the trials, the Bf 109 clearly outperformed the larger and heavier favorite, Heinkel's He 112. The first production model, the Bf 109B, began coming off the lines in 1936. The redesignation of the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke AG (Aktiengesellschaft or Corporation) to the Messerschmitt AG in 1938 led many to call it the Me 109, although the official Luftwaffe designation of the aircraft remained the Bf 109 throughout the war.

[SAMWolf]

No problem Central_Floridian, just goes to show you're a purist. Bf is the official designation, Me is what most people know them as.