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Powell is the Problem
me | 9/18/2001 | Brent Skilton (aka Heisenburger)

Posted on 09/18/2001 7:23:45 PM PDT by Heisenburger

Many, like myself, are asking why the U.S. has not yet responded to the acts of war committed against innocent Americans by Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, and possibly the government of Iraq. Even more, some of us are doubting whether the military will respond at all beyond firing a few cruise missiles into empty mountain ranges in Afghanistan. Though some may argue that the U.S. is planning a large-scale invasion, it is not beyond the pale to ask that the military makes an immediate down-payment on future attacks. Such a down-payment would weaken the Taliban's alertness as they would necessarily believe that once the first round is over, no more responses will occur. Yes, perhaps the attack is indeed taking time to plan and execute. But then again, perhaps little military planning has yet taken place.

The real reason the U.S. has not yet responded may be the extremely poor advice Colin Powell is reportedly giving to the President. Powell, unlike the rest of Americans, seeks a peaceful resolution to the current situation, unaware of the fact that any peaceful resolution will be seen not as charity by the U.S. but rather as a sign of America's weakness, thus bolstering Jihadist resolve and assuring future attacks. Indeed, if Bush follows Powell's weak-kneed recommendations, rather than that of seasoned foreign policy expert Donald Rumsfield, we will never be safe in our own homes again.

Powell has a history of being a coward. In the Gulf War, it was not because of any lack of U.N. authorization that the U.S. left Saddam Hussein in power. Once our troops were in place and once coalition nations had dedicated their armies to the conflict, taking out Hussein could have easily been negotiated. No, we didn't take out Hussein because Powell was afraid of him and was able to catch Bush the First's ear more ably than Schwarzkopf.

Reports from the Miami Herald and other sources indicates that Powell is determined to gather together another coalition like the one American employed during the Gulf War. Powell misunderstands two obvious points:

1)This is our war, not theirs. In the Gulf War, the U.S. had not been directly attacked, so there was a need to make sure U.S. action at least had the image of being a resolute action by all the nations of the world to destroy blatant imperialism. However, in this case war has been declared upon the U.S., not the U.N., and unlike the small, weak nation of Kuwait, we don't need others to fight our battles for us.

2)Any worldwide coalition will necessarily devolve into a ladies' bridge club, where actions are taken based on trying not to offend the member-nations, rather than on the best interests of the American people and the future generations of the United States. We will not invade Iraq because the Saudis won't stand for it. We will not overthrow Qaddafi because Egypt may feel threatened. We will not destroy bin Laden's facilities in the Sudan because Algiers would be angry (after all, they'd be next).

More, Powell's negotiation with the Taliban, as well as his negotiation with moderate Arab states as to whether or not to strike Iraq, violates the fundamental rule of American policy on terrorism: We do not negotiate with terrorists. Why? To negotiate is to give up a concession. Even the smallest such concession given to terrorist governments will embolden them to seek more compensation by future terrorist actions: Give Jihadists an inch, and they will take a mile.

What if Powell does convince the Taliban to hand over bin Laden? We win, right? Wrong. If bin laden is handed over, we will necessarily need to put him on trial in the U.S. Not only will the Court House be under constant bomb threats, requiring constant evacuations, thus insuring a chaotic trial, but bin Laden will continue to orchestrate further attacks on the U.S. from within his jail cell. Couldn't we put him under lock and key and deny him the ability to communicate to people outside his cell? Think again. The ACLU would never allow it.

Even worse, we will not be able to punish the Taliban and Hussein, or destroy bin Laden's camps and assets in Afghanistan or elsewhere until bin Laden has been convicted and has exhausted his right to appeal, a process that could take up to 20 years. After all, how could we attack Al-Qaida until it has been proven by "12 good men and true" that bin Laden orchestrated the attacks?

If Powell's peacenik policies are followed, the Taliban, Hussein, and any other nations involved in sponsoring terrorism will necessarily assume that America is weak. Such tyrants do not have the ability to think rationally, nor to tell the difference between right and wrong. Force is all they understand. Though the West would view a peaceful resolution as a wonderful act of compassion, mercy, and forgiveness by the United States, Islamic dictatorships would assume that because the U.S. did not use force, they have been given a greenlight to even more heinous actions in the future: Anyone heard of a little toy called the nuclear suitcase?

Is there room for Powell's mercy? Yes: After the U.S. invades Afghanistan and Iraq, deposes the governments there, and sets up democratic, pro-Western regimes, America should seriously consider a Middle East Marshall Policy. Such a policy would insure prosperity and education in Afghanistan and Iraq, and as we know, a prosperous and educated people are less likely to be given over to anti-American madmen, Canada's example notwithstanding. (Hey, just kidding!) Furthermore, an aid package given by the United States and implemented by the American government (not the possibly corrupt governments of the nations being aided) would secure in the minds of those nations' people that America really is the charitable, compassionate, peaceful bastion of freedom that we in the U.S. already know her to be. Beyond that, such a plan would flood Iraq's and Afghanistan's economies with American dollars, providing another beneficial market for American capital and consumer goods, just as the Marshall Plan did for us in Europe.

It is clear that if we follow Powell's plan now, we will only be risking further attacks. We have learned from Neville Chamberlain that peace cannot be bought with the false smiles of cowardly diplomats. King Solomon assured us that to everything there is a season: a time for war, and a time for peace. There will someday be a time for peace and charity. Now is the time for war.


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1 posted on 09/18/2001 7:23:45 PM PDT by Heisenburger
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To: Heisenburger
I have no problem with waiting and getting it right. We need to formulate a plan that will isolate the countries harboring large numbers of terrorists, and make them 'mud' in the sight of the rest of the world. There were people from all over the world in the WTC towers and surrounding buildings. It will take some time to get the countries of those people on board, but I think it will happen.

We have this need for vengeance, but remember the saying "Vengeance is a dish best served COLD". Let them think we're losing the will to fight, all the better for them to raise their heads out of the holes and we can take careful aim. We don't need to follow their lead and kill a bunch of innocent civilians. Find the people who ordered these attacks and GO AFTER THEM and their sponsors!

2 posted on 09/18/2001 7:28:45 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Heisenburger
Patience.
3 posted on 09/18/2001 7:30:50 PM PDT by Huck
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To: Heisenburger
I haven't heard Powell say anything about a 'peaceful solution'. I think that's hockey. I think they are just making sure they get it right. And I mean GET IT RIGHT!

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4 posted on 09/18/2001 7:30:51 PM PDT by 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember
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To: Heisenburger
I do not accept your characterization of Powell as a "coward," but he is clearly a poor Secretary of State.

That said, I think we need to abandon our desire for instant gratification and be patient. Doing it now for the sake of doing it now is what Clinton would do, and we know how Clinton's military actions tended to end up.

5 posted on 09/18/2001 7:31:36 PM PDT by BurkeanCyclist
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To: Heisenburger
The country is the right hands.

It's no time to be a cowboy.

6 posted on 09/18/2001 7:34:24 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: BurkeanCyclist
That said, I think we need to abandon our desire for instant gratification and be patient.

Launching a low-grade nuclear warhead doesn't take a lot of planning.

7 posted on 09/18/2001 7:34:46 PM PDT by Heisenburger
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To: Heisenburger
Refusing to take out Saddam Hussein was not an act of cowardice. It was the Bush administration's adherence to the unwritten law that Presidents do not kill presidents. Any world leader can have any other world leader killed at any time with relative ease. That is why it is never done. Ever wonder why Patton did not just bomb Rommel's H.Q in Africa during W.W.II? Same reason, generals do not kill other generals either.
8 posted on 09/18/2001 7:34:51 PM PDT by america76
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To: BurkeanCyclist
I do not think Powell is a poor Secretary of State. He has been working non-stop with all these foreiign ministers and it is a monumental job. Please reserve judgement and give him a chance.

Italy got on board today, despite the BBC's effort to split the coalition. They will commit troops.

9 posted on 09/18/2001 7:35:11 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Heisenburger
You can bet that if Clinton and his feminized band of she-men were running things, we would have responded by now. With missiles, airstrikes, and possibly even tactical nukes.

Then the preening would begin. "What a great triumph we have won! Who dares to challenge the mighty Superpower and its boy-king?"

Of course, nothing would have been solved. Bin Ladin's successors would keep working toward the Islamic bomb, which might float into your city 10 years hence.

Be happy that real men are in charge of things now.

10 posted on 09/18/2001 7:35:17 PM PDT by cicero's_son
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To: america76
It is not an unwritten law...it is an executive order saying the U.S. cannot assassinate heads of state.
11 posted on 09/18/2001 7:36:40 PM PDT by cactmh
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To: Heisenburger
Many, like myself, are asking why the U.S. has not yet responded to the acts of war committed against innocent Americans by Osama bin Laden

It's really very simple. This isn't Star Trek, we don't have TRANSPORTERS, and there's no Scottie to beam everybody to the surface in a matter of seconds.

Anybody seriously want to send my relatives and a lot of other people's over there right when everybody is expecting them, before doing any preparation, before any psychology takes effect- just because you can't stand the wait?

12 posted on 09/18/2001 7:36:51 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Miss Marple
Good sentiment. I've heard that Hitler said the Italians were a liability. I hope they've improved in that department...
13 posted on 09/18/2001 7:37:58 PM PDT by cactmh
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To: Heisenburger
If bin laden is handed over, we will necessarily need to put him on trial in the U.S.

I guess you hadn't heard. We are demanding him tried in UAE, Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan. No way is this going to be O.J.Simpsoned.

14 posted on 09/18/2001 7:39:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: america76
That is why it is never done. Ever wonder why Patton did not just bomb Rommel's H.Q in Africa during W.W.II? Same reason, generals do not kill other generals either.

Don't try telling that to Admiral Yamamoto.

15 posted on 09/18/2001 7:39:45 PM PDT by DSH
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To: Heisenburger
Yes, perhaps the attack is indeed taking time to plan and execute.

Try to have a little faith in President Bush and those he has chosen to advise him. Obviously, military operations on the other side of the world do take a little time, logistics, logistics, logistics.
The silence from the administration will frustrate you and the media. Perhaps some in the media will begin making up stories in an attempt to get the administration to say something about what they are planning. The old "dissention in the administration" bit has been floated by the media before, don't get sucked in. This kind of talk is a distraction and only aids the enemy.

16 posted on 09/18/2001 7:41:42 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: america76
. It was the Bush administration's adherence to the unwritten law that Presidents do not kill presidents.

I wish we had known that in the 60s and early 70s. Perhaps then we wouldn't have made the assassination attempts on Fidel Castro. Perhaps if Ronald Reagan was aware of that policy, he wouldn't have tried to kill Momar Qaddafi.

Ever wonder why Patton did not just bomb Rommel's H.Q in Africa during W.W.II? Same reason, generals do not kill other generals either.

Hmm. That didn't stop us from killing Yamamoto. The reason we didn't kill Rommel is that it isn't always easy to find the enemy command and control center. For instance, Fredendall, Eisenhower's second in command during part of operation torch (Ike eventually relieved Fredendall of duty), placed his own HQ deep within a cave in a canyon in North Africa, well behind American lines.

18 posted on 09/18/2001 7:42:54 PM PDT by Heisenburger
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To: cactmh
You war mongers need to sit back awhile and chill. The fireworks will come. We're putting things in place and that's all I will say but like the President said "If you wear a uniform - get ready" and we are!
19 posted on 09/18/2001 7:42:57 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: america76
Refusing to take out Saddam Hussein was not an act of cowardice.

I agree the thinking back then was not to destabilize the middle east. His military defeated, it became a case of the devil you know is probably better than the unknown one. Big mistake on Bush Sr’s part.

20 posted on 09/18/2001 7:43:58 PM PDT by TightSqueeze
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