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How Can You Trust A President Who Favors A Police State Over Immigration Control ?
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| 11-7-01
| S.Fleming
Posted on 12/07/2001 7:54:26 AM PST by mercy
Terrorism in America is not a crime problem. It is war. Then why are we instituting new and invasive, yea even unconstitutional, police measures to attack the problem rather than simple immigration control? If we are at war and we are under attack from foreign nationals on our own soil ... how can we fail to take the simplest, most direct and wholly effective measure to protect ourselves? It is a massive bull elephant sitting on the chase lounge right in our rec room and NOBODY wants to talk about it. We are so afraid of this monster in our midst we are even willing, as a nation, to trash our constitution wholesale rather than even look at it. And next to the immigration elephant sits the 22 foot Bush crocodile. Why arent more VRWC cardholders on this guy's case? Are we that desperate for a popular conservative chief executive ... that we are willing to support totalitarianism ?!
I really want to like President Bush. I really do like most of his cabinet. I am quite happy with the course of the war and pleased with our military's prosecution of it. BUT ... Our nation is perilously treading a path we may never be a able to back track. We are giving the Justice Dept. and all it's minions police powers that may be, in the long run, more destructive than anything the islamists could have dreamed of. The present administration is not dangerous to actual Americans civil rights but what about the next administration? The next?
In addition we are making air travel so uncomfortable and restrictive that many are just giving it up and will probably continue to do so. Not to mention that even the measures we ARE taking STILL won't for the most part stop a terrorist from putting a bomb in the cargo hold of any given plane.
Beyond all this we are accepting as status quo a level of fear and dread across the land that is wholly hateful and wrong. Yes, the police forces are doing all they can but we know it probably is not enough.
All this and more when the most effective method of dealing with the terrorist threat is largely ignored. Indeed after a few vocal members of society voiced it sporadically in the early stages .... it is as if some giant hand of censorship has rendered the concept unmentionable and beyond the pale. The simple step of stopping all Middle East immigration, deporting all non citizen ME visitors and revoking all ME green cards is the only real way to render America safe again. Why aren't we doing this? Why are we subjecting ourselves to a police state we may never be able to rid ourselves of and failing to evict the terrorists wholesale from our midst?
Yes we are in a state of 'wartime' but why are we abusing ourselves instead of the enemy? I don't get it at all and I'm really seriously suspicious of Mr. Bush's motives? It's unforgivable.
Is there a conspiratorial plot to gradually cede American sovereignty to a one world entity to come? Is there an unconscious predilection (even within the conservative mind!) at least sympathetic to the idea that Americas lone stature as the world's only super power is not good for the world or at least somehow untenable?
It seems to me that other-than-American ideas are holding huge sway on this planet these days. When looking at the seemingly most prominent (at least most visible) manifestation of centralized world control at this time, the UN, we certainly don't see American control. Indeed, our influence is difficult to detect at this time. I just see us sort of wilting away. It is tempting to look at our economic power and think of ourselves as the 'only superpower' but the corporations who make up this economic power are no longer 'American'. They are something else. They are loyal not to America, not even close. As an example: Do we think it was an 'American' idea to bomb white Europeans in the defense of Muslims in the Balkans? We actually took part in an offensive war and directed NATO to slaughter those who should have been our allies. (if that sentence raises your PC hackles you need to check your VRWC credentials) There is undoubtedly more to come in this vein I'm sure.
Many, indeed most, are all agog and agape at America's new found patriotism. I reckon this new found love is as wide as the ocean .... and as deep as a puddle. The rot that took fifty years to fester is not going to be excised with one terrorist debauchery. Truth be told it is worsening. This refusal of Bush to deport the vermin and halt their further infestation is the worst thing to happen to America .... EVER. We have taken a giant leap into the NWO and I don't think GWB is even smart enough to see it.
Talk about irony. The 'leftist tactic' used against Bush throughout the campaign and even now .... i.e. calling him dumb ..... may actually be the truth. Maybe he had special tutoring to get him through his statistics classes at Yale Business School (or was it Haaavad?). How can he not see he is taking us over the edge into NWO oblivion? Either he's dumb.... or complicit. Worse yet ... how can WE not see this?
Somebody PLEASE disabuse me of my paranoiac nightmare. Facts please. Facts.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911conspiracy
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Every time we advocate the UN take any role in any nation we are underwriting our own demise. Now we want the UN to go into Ashcanistan. Soon the UN will be running everything. Here we are, all excited about the 'new patriotism' in America but the signs of a worse affliction than terrorism are all around us.
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posted on
12/07/2001 7:54:26 AM PST
by
mercy
To: mercy
A non-discriminatory police state is more politically correct than immigration control.
To: Hugin; A Navy Vet; EggsAckley; First_Salute; Renegade
Contributions?
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posted on
12/07/2001 7:58:29 AM PST
by
mercy
To: mercy
Every time we advocate the UN take any role in any nation we are underwriting our own demise. Now we want the UN to go into Ashcanistan.If the UN is stupid enough to go into Afghanistan, then I'm not that worried about them achieving world dominence.
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:00:01 AM PST
by
dirtboy
To: white trash redneck
Yes, exactly. It does not take much immagination to see where this Zeitgeist will take us.
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:00:38 AM PST
by
mercy
To: mercy
I trust President Bush. For victory & freedom!!!
To: mercy
Don't worry, we'll resume asking these types of questions once a Democrat is in power.
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:01:38 AM PST
by
Wolfie
To: mercy

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posted on
12/07/2001 8:03:10 AM PST
by
vannrox
To: dirtboy
Yesbut. It won't be the piddly UN that takes over. It's the IDEA that is cancerous and will metasticise(sp?).
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:03:54 AM PST
by
mercy
To: mercy
We aren't in any "police state!"
Indeed, for all your gripe that Bush isn't doing something about aliens instead, he's shut down the Mexican border - and the only people Ashcroft is detaining or threatening to have military tribunals try are aliens! It's documentable fact that Bush has cracked down bigtime on aliens since 9/11. Before then, my town in North Carolina had four big intercity buses a day on average of illegals headed north from the Tex/Mex borderland; now, zero - evidently because nobody's making it across the border to need a ride north!
IMMIGRATION resource library - with local INS phone numbers, coast to coast!
To: mercy
If you don't like it. In three years time, you can vote Bubba back into office.
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:04:49 AM PST
by
jerod
To: mercy
Who ever doubted that Bush would take this path? With his incessent sucking up to Hispanics he would never go for any reasonable controls on immigration. That's why I couldn't stomach voting for him in the first place and won't in the second either.
To: mercy
NEWSFLASH: THEY'RE ALREADY HERE!!!!!
The barn door was already open, they're already here--we have to deal with the problem as it is, not go back and do what should have been done years ago.
They're working on immigration control too, but the problem is bigger than we can fix in a few short weeks...
-penny
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:05:30 AM PST
by
Penny1
To: vannrox
Great, please post the PDR data for ProZac and then go to the over the counter PDR and post the fact sheet for Preparation H!
To: Saundra Duffy
Did you read the article? It's not the Prez who will do the dammage. It will be a successor using the powers this adminstration has pirated away form the constitution.
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:05:59 AM PST
by
mercy
To: Wolfie
.... after it's too late!
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:06:46 AM PST
by
mercy
To: vannrox
Thanks for cluttering up my thread, genius.
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:07:55 AM PST
by
mercy
To: Saundra Duffy
I trust him to a certain degree. However, the failure to address immigration and our border security in a meaningful fashion is suicidal for America given what we know now. (And in fact what we knew, but failed to acknowledge, pre-9/11)
To: mercy
...there's no such thing as "
simple immigration control." It's a HUGE problem--reforming the INS will take
years when we could get hit again tomorrow by the people who've been in this country for years.
-penny
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:08:34 AM PST
by
Penny1
To: glc1173@aol.com
If you say so.
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posted on
12/07/2001 8:09:06 AM PST
by
mercy
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