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I'm originally from Waco, TX(next to the Gault site), and I've seen one site that was around 40ft. deep with multiple muscle shell middens 2-3ft. thik at a depth of 15-25ft. The perfectly stratified layers continued all the way down to the bedrock with a fat layer of charcoal on top of that. Kinda saving that site to register it with someone I can trust in the area, or just get to the point where I tell everyone all at the same time(so they can all watch each other). Many of the archaeologists in the Central Texas area are a lil shady, but things have gotten better in the last few years. There are several sites I've discovered, miles from the nearest roads, that are pristine and untouched by looters. One is a cave 1/8 mile long with a 30’ wide entrance, and a ceiling about 50’-60’. Back inside, the ceiling is collapsed and there is a mound of bison bones eroding out. Across the cliff face there are pectoglyphs and grinding bowl areas. There are also dates and names dating back into the 1800’s engraved on the walls. AWESOME site. It is ABSOLUTELY paleo. I found a Frio projectile point sticking out of the bank down at the base of the hill. Frio’s are a transitional paleo projectile. It was also found in conjuction with a wide base lance-let point made from Alibates flint(non-fluted), and around 6 or 7 scrapers and specialized tools. All of this was coming out of one layer at around 18 ft. deep. There are sites all around Central Texas that WILL rewrite our history, but they just have to be gotten to before the looters in Coryell and Bell County get their hands on them. Ever seen a projectile point corkscrew like a wine bottle opener? I've seen two in looters collections. One was an Ensor, and corkscrewed once. The other was a split-based Ensor(which doesn't look anything like an Ensor) made from pink flint that you could hold your finger on the backside and see your fingerprint. It corkscrewed three times and was around 8 inches long. It was found on the Franklin Limestone plant property, on Tonkawa Creek in Crawford, TX. Right underneath the overhang below the 3 semis full of dynamite used to blast holes in what was supposed to be the 2nd State Park in Texas. Mother Neff State Park and Tonkawa Creek State Park were donated to the State of TX in 1899. Now there's a damn limestone plant in the middle of one. I have personally seen where they dug out the overhangs with DC9’s and backhoes so that the employees could dig there on the weekends. One hole to the side of the overhang is about 40 ft long,by 15 ft wide, by 5 ft deep and has a layer of human bones at about 3 ft. down, all the way around the hole. Skull fragments were falling out of that layer. Seeing all that pissed me of and I contacted the Texas Historical Commission, the State Archaeologist,President Bush, and anyone else that might listen. No one did, matter of fact, no one evidently gave a crap AT ALL. Writing the President only made US Marshals show up at my house the next day, and talking to THC didn't get anything done either. Last I heard, the Texas Attorney’s Office was looking into how to sue a million dollar company started by city council members in the 1930’s, and sold multiple times(as it grew by a few acres each time). Never heard anything ever again. If anyone on here gives a crap at all, and can push this issue with someone who might actually listen, email me. I'd be glad to testify...lol. See why I don't tell anyone in Central Texas about the sites I know of? Evidently,no one can be trusted to do the right thing there. And, yes, I am an archaeologist...now. I mean, somebody's got to save our history, right? Might as well be me every chance I get...lol. Y'all have a great day.

I’m an archeologist working pipelines at times here in the US, and, from what I’ve seen the pipe gets laid several years in advance of everything else. The Valve stations and other controlling areas get laid last. At least, from what I’ve seen...

One more thing before I’m off to work, think of it as a pendullum. The more the temperature goes up, the more it’s going to backswing. ‘Everything has an equal, or opposite reaction’. Higher temperatures than we’ve had in history is a REALLY bad thing, because what’s left for the earth to do after that... Read the link I posted earlier.

I’m not sure if you’re referring to me, or not. But, I’ve never changed my tune. I’ve written multiple articles and thesis papers on the coming ice age over the last 20 years and have never even mentioned global warming other than it’s the PLEASANT part of an ice age. Matter of fact, global warming ALWAYS leads to an ice age. I’m not quite sure why ANY scientist would even focus on the recent temperature upswing, unless they used the data to reflect the certainty of what comes after it. The weather ebbs and flows, back and forth, global warming - ice age, it’s just the way it works. There isn’t even any room for talk about about just one side of it. It is a story of BOTH when you mention warming trends. The only REALLY bad part of global warming is the one people don’t want to hear. Maybe that’s why the scientists don’t mention it, they understand that the majority of the world’s population just CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH...

SunkinCiv - this is not a post to you, I just linked off your post.
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World Temperatures according to the Hadley Center for Climate Prediction. Note the steep drop over the last year.Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming

Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico, Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina, Chile — the list goes on and on.
No more than anecdotal evidence, to be sure. But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA’s GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.

A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C — a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year’s time. For all four sources, it’s the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.

Scientists quoted in a past DailyTech article link the cooling to reduced solar activity which they claim is a much larger driver of climate change than man-made greenhouse gases. The dramatic cooling seen in just 12 months time seems to bear that out. While the data doesn’t itself disprove that carbon dioxide is acting to warm the planet, it does demonstrate clearly that more powerful factors are now cooling it.

Let’s hope those factors stop fast. Cold is more damaging than heat. The mean temperature of the planet is about 54 degrees. Humans — and most of the crops and animals we depend on — prefer a temperature closer to 70.

Historically, the warm periods such as the Medieval Climate Optimum were beneficial for civilization. Corresponding cooling events such as the Little Ice Age, though, were uniformly bad news.

Update 2/27: The graph for HadCRUT (above), as well as the linked graphs for RSS and UAH are generated month-to-month; the temperature declines span a full 12 months of data. The linked GISS graph was graphed for the months of January only, due to a limitation in the plotting program. Anthony Watts, who kindly provided the graphics, otherwise has no connection with the column. The views and comments are those of the author only.

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This is the article that this post is referring to...Ya know, to kinda hockeystick back to the original topic...

Anyone ever watched the ‘Day After Tomorrow’? lol...why am I laughing you may ask? Because, that movie was tame compared to what will really happen one of these days, probably not tomorrow though...

If y’all REALLY wanna see something that’ll scare you into not cracking jokes, read this ENTIRE online article at the end of this link. There is no bull crap in it, and it is evidence of a REPEATING cycle that will happen again, SEVERAL TIMES. Or, ya know, y’all can just go back to posting all the old, crappy, boring, worn-out, mindless jokes that have been posted on here for the last 5 years. Whatever, you people are gonna do whatever you want anyway:

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FrozenMammoths6.html

Have the best day of your life ;)

I am here, right now... I will inform this thread when I am allowed... As for now, look for the edited version in the next Archeology Magazine and past year versions of National Geographic. I can PROMISE you that nothing has been found that rivals this in the Caribbean... That’s all I can say due to the current politics...

DP

I will have photos when I am able to post them, probably in June.

Don’t speculate on something you have NEVER SEEN YOURSELF...
THE WORLD IS LARGER THAN THESE KEYSTROKES, AND STIR UP A LOTTA CRAP WHEN OPINIONS ARE POSTED AS FACT IN FOREIGN COUNTIES LOOKING TO BASH AMERICANS EVERY CHANCE THEY GET... Opinionated, ignorant people KILL anthropologists almost every day from the internet. Please do not help this along... I’ll post whem I get a chance.

FYI - We have armed, bullet-proof guards that look over us 24/7, please don’t believe everything you read and ‘accidently’ point armed mercenaries in our direction to kill us and destroy the site for profit.
OK? lol... guess we won’t have much of a choice if that happens anyway, right? There’s already bullet holes in equipment we have on the site, and security problems that I cannot mention, due to the turmoil it may create. Don’t be an American Dumbass and think you have no effect on the rest of us out of states...My wife and daughter want me home ASAP, ok?

One more thought...

You seemed to imply that I don’t understand the sacredness of a burial. I am truly, wholeheartedly, passionate about the sacredness that went into the burial of native Americans. I believe that our ancestors here were more in tune to our surroundings, both physical and spiritual, than modern Americans ever will be again. What I thought I was saying in the original post is that it is amazing the effort and ceremonial attention that went into EACH burial I have seen, even the (basically) damned ones. Sometimes it’s beautiful, sometimes it’s disturbing, but all of them are equally fascinating.

Don’t lump me in a box you don’t understand yourself. All of us are biased in our own ways. So are you, as your reply clearly states. I, personally, don’t FEEL the connection to Israel that the media may lead you to believe I do. I am a Christian. Which means, a person trying to be Christ-like. That doesn’t mean I feel some connection at all with Israel. I am a historian, and have been since I was 5. I love history and perceive white American history as a perpetuated lie to warp the minds of our kids into acting in a very ethnocentric manner. Makes me sick going to my daughter’s plays at school, knowing the reality of what the plays are REALLY about. We also have some historical American holidays that I DID NOT vote into existence. You’re not talking to someone, at all, that fits into this biased image you have of Americans. I can understand your ill-feelings towards Americans and their lack of sensibilities, because I share your disgust of them. I still LOVE my country, in spite of it’s blinders...

It’s a pleasure to meet you,
DP

My great-grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee. I remember her well in my childhood. I’m an archaeologist with a US based CRM company, and if, for some reason, it was necessary to dig her up to learn more about my family lineage, I would love to be the first to use my trowel. I pray that some day I may be deemed important enough for someone to dig me up to learn about themselves from me. Wow, I mean, what better way to have my fleeting time here be immortalized for all time. Shouldn't’t we all feel so blessed?

I saw the week before last the oldest act of love I’ve ever seen in a burial of a woman carefully placed with her hand under her chin, the other on her knee, in a burial dug to a depth of around 6 feet with whomever loved her’s bare hands. I also saw a couple buried together in an embrace, and someone buried with their arms around their best friend, their dog. These visions of love over 3000 yrs. old warmed my heart and reinforced the love I hold dear for my wife and kids. I WANT TO MAKE SOMEONE FEEL THAT SAME WAY IN 3000 years. These burials that archaeologists uncover aren’t just about digging up someones body that has moved on, they’re also about carefully viewing the snapshot in time of the interaction that others had with that person after they died. That kind of information can only be seen in these contexts. Many times it’s beautiful and heartwarming. Many times it’s brutal and more vicious than anything that we would EVER begin to do to OUR own relatives now days (Hell, if I buried my wife, set fire to her feet, set fire to her head, placed a big rock on her head so that she couldn’t go to heaven, and thereby premeditatedly sentenced her to hell on earth for all time, I think with today’s laws I would have to say someone might object to me doing that.). Irregardless, almost every burial can offer an amazing insight into the life and times of my own far distant relatives, and I don’t understand at all why ANYONE objects to us doing this. My personal opinion is that these tribes don’t want us to know about their far-distant past, as the knowledge of that might corrupt our ‘white man’s’ pretty little picture of the Native American being this victimized loving group of societies, which in fact is completely bogus. If that is the case, then they are trying to warp history for the benefit of modern individuals. Kinda like the movie Da Vinci’s Code. Remember the quote ‘Dead people tell no lies’? It’s very true in this instance.

Here’s something interesting - I’m a Pentland. My ancestors come from there and we changed our name to Penland after reaching the ‘new world’. If anyone’s ever met one of us, make sure to tell them that that’s where they come from and I’m directly related to every one of them. (I wonder if I’m Roman farther back?) Who knows. Kinda cool to see our last name mentioned in here, being that it’s such an obscure name. Thanks for the post...

Let’s look at this from another angle, shall we?

What if the stones were tied in link with rope of some sort, and used by swinging them around and throwing them at the legs of gazelles. He could then use the sickle, not for gathering wheat, but for slicing the gazelle’s achilles tendons so it couldn’t run away (would also make a quick way to slice the throat without getting too close to those wicked horns. The toes are merit badges, if you will, from previous kills.

Maybe, he was 13 and dad said, “Now’s your time Johammmadi. Go out and bring me back 20 gazelle toes. Then, grasshopper, you will be a man.”

Seems resonable to me... These people were hunter/gatherers, seems like the first part seems to get forgotten alot. There have always been ‘rights of passage’ in the world of hunters turning of age. The answer could truely be anything, but to just say he was a vegetarian based on his toolkit seems alot like a biased opinion. If he was a vegetarian gatherer, maybe that’s why they found his toolkit - He was eaten by something and he had no clue how to defend himself in the real world.

(Yes I DO realize that the word ‘she’ could be substituted for ‘he’ multiple times in the preceeding sentences, and if while reading you felt as if I was being sexist...get over yourself. The world’s not about you...
Don’t sue me, don’t protest in Washington, don’t call your senator and demand new legislation, don’t scream out loud until everyone rolls their eyes behind your back....
It’s real easy, just turn off the computer and go for a walk... ok?)

Forget about it...

In the article, most of the instances of suffocated, crushed, animals happened in the wide open plains of Arctic Circle.

Have you even read the pages connected to the link, or did you just read the first and then make your own conclusion? I stopped somewhere around the 65th e-page, and what I read had nothing to do with an avalance. It had quite a bit more to do with ‘The Day After Tomorrow’ and your near futeur.

Does anyone think this may be related:

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FrozenMammoths6.html

This news is outdated by around 15 years.

Around 15 years ago scientists discovered several different instances of scarring on the bones of Native Americans by syphilis that dated to way before the genocidal maniac Columbus got his sorry ass here. There were around 100 skeletons found in FL around that time that, if I remember correctly, many of them had scarring created by syphilis, too.

Every time I read anything written about the mammoths, journalists get something wrong in the story. I’ve read that the two kids were adults, amatuer fossilhunters...ROFL, teenagers, two boys, two girls, Baylor University, a landowner, and a few other variances of all of those. I’m not sure if I’ve ever heard it told right once. I have even heard officials from Baylor, on the news, explaining the story and getting it wrong. I’m beginning to wonder if anyone even remembers or cares. There was one girl that was there and might be on this forum. Last I heard, I think she was a Marine Biologist in Galveston, TX. I believe her name was Selina? I know her last name, but I won’t post it. If you’re out there, speak up, I know you have quite a few interesting stories to tell as well.

Something else, I found a 68 million year old turtle in a gravel pit, not 2 miles from there.

The whole area also used to be beachfront property a long, long time ago. There are dinosaur footprints all up the Brazos and Puluxy Rivers north of Waco, too.

The two kids that found it weren’t amateur fossil hunters, that’s BULL___T. Two kids, a boy and a girl, were exploring the woods when momma wasn’t watching and stumbled across bones sticking out of the back. If I remember right they were younger than me, and I was in 6th grade. I was in a group called the ‘Junior Naturalist Club’ at Baylor when a certain unnamed archaeologist came down to the basement where we were cleaning points from the Horn Rock Shelter and asked us if we wanted to go explore the woods to look for some bones. It sounded better than pruning up my hands, so why not? There were 7 or 8 of us, I think. One thing not mentioned in the paper was the alligator teeth we found that day, too. Also found one crude, worked, flint knife of some sort. It was kinda mixed in with the bones, but a little upstream.
Another thing, there are 2 or 3 separate sites stacked on each other. One is deep down next to the lowest observation deck. Back when it was a ravine, there was a deep cut hole that dropped off there and bones were sticking out of near the bottom. Don’t know if those have ever been dug yet. They had been covered over by silt during a flood Waco had several years ago, and as of my last visit there, they were still several feet beneath the level of the current level of the creek.
Mammoth bones are found all throughout the area of that site in gravel pits, and those gravel pits get shut down if anyone finds out they found anything. It’s just a layer of gravel that runs up and down the Brazos River. Bones are all in it. Worked flint sometimes too.

I moved to North Carolina a few months back from Texas and discovered that illegals were stealing left and right from the 3/4 million dollar homes in the neighborhood I was working in. I decided to contact INS/homeland security for NC and talked to the head of INS for NC, after about a week of speaking to answering machines and leaving messages on a 1800#. He said that the only way they could do anything at all was if the President or a State Congressman walked into their office personally. He also said that the State of North Carolina had only 7 INS agents to arrest illegals and there was absolutely nothing they could do, as they were mainly wrapped up in paperwork and red tape.

In Texas, you call INS, they show up the next day with Paddy-wagons, helicopters, and dogs. Here on the East coast, you leave a message on a 1-800# and pray...

The cost of new homes here in NC is LITERALLY 2 to 3 times what it is in most parts of Texas, but the contractors building those homes get paid several dollars less an hour than in Texas. There is a problem here... Contractors here have to have contractor’s licenses, in TX they don’t...Here contractors have to pay extra taxes, carry unemployment insurance, and face the wrath of the State Government if they even get a little out of whack with all of their ducks in a row. In Texas, if you screw someone over on a job, they find you in a ditch. You don’t need a contractor’s license, and you don’t have to pay state taxes, unemployment insurance, or worry about being incarcerated by the State because you forgot which kind of corporation you actually own.

Texas has a need killing’ law and a concealed handgun license that anyone, being of sound mind, can use.

What can we learn from the State that’s on the border with Mexico? The media presents the border to the rest of the nation as if Texas and the other states do absolutely nothing to stop the flow of illegals into America, but that isn’t true at all. If you drove down the road within 60 miles of the border in TX, you would be paranoid from all of the cops and roadblocks. (even if you’ve done nothing wrong) The INS presence is everywhere, and they respond about as fast as calling Geico to switch you’re auto insurance.

In TX when you shoot a coyote on your property, you throw it over the fence and leave it there for the other coyotes to smell and learn to stay off your property...It works.
Why don’t we use this same practice? Why is wrapping up illegals on the East Coast such a damn problem? Hell, the way the government does things around here, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if there’s a nuke sitting right down the road from me. You people around here aught to be scared.

One last tidbit - Last year the TX INS discovered two separate tunnels leading from Nuevo Laredo under the Rio Grande into Laredo that had electric trains pulling carts down a fully lighted train track. The tunnels were several miles long and very expensive to create. I’ve worked with several illegals over the years that, when INS busts them, they sit here in America until INS sends them back, which is somewhere around two weeks. When they get back to Central America, they take a week off and see their family, and buy all new cloths (Tommy Hilfinger, Ralph Lauren, Air Jordans, etc.) at extremely reduced prices.(probably because the factories are there that make them.) They then get on a semi, spend $1000 cash, and are back in Central Texas in under 1 week. The Mexican Army is about as corrupt as most of the military leaders of Northern Pakistan, so getting here isn’t a problem.

Just imagine if you knew the right people to get here and had $50,000 to play with... What all could you bring with you?

If you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you’ve always gotten...

Perhaps it’s time for a drastic change, who’s with me?

EVERYONE THAT READS THIS SHOULD READ THE BOOK AT THE END OF THIS LINK. IT BREAKS DOWN ALL OF THE MAMMOTHS FOUND, HOW exactly THEY DIED, AND SEVERAL OTHER POINTS THAT ARE VERY COMPELLING...

http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FrozenMammoths6.html

It’s long, but don’t give up, it gets more and more interesting as you read.

One point I want to make is that this scenario, that is explained by the ebook, is a recurring event and will happen at some point again. If you saw the ‘DAY AFTER TOMORROW’ you might think that an ice age happening that fast couldn't’t occur anywhere but Hollywood. After you read this entire link, you may view that movie as being tame and bland compared to the evidence discussed.