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Honestly, I don’t see how we stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Sanctions? They don’t seem to be slowing them down any. Declare war? With two other major fronts, that’s not likely.

I want a President who’s policy is this:
“Okay, we can’t stop you from getting nuclear capability. However, should there be an attack on the U.S involving nuclear material and we find that the material came from you (Iran), you will have 72-hours to evacuate Tehran. After 72 hours the bombing will begin and Tehran will be reduced to the biggest piece of glass on the planet.

Please note, we only have to prove your involvement to our own satisfaction—not yours or the UN’s. Ours.”

Is that too much to ask for?

I listened to the whole thing and it scared me more than the article did. I’m not attacking you here, deport, I just want to point out a thing or two.

I got the impression that a President Perry would push amnesty for all those here already so that they could become taxpayers. Is that a stretch? Possibly, but I didn’t hear anything that would make me believe otherwise. Seems like a logical extension of his stance on the issue.

Yes, I understood the “in-process” bit, but that could easily be omitted from the final bill in congress based on it being impractical to process an extra 14 million citizenship requests at once.

How many times must we do this thing with trying to declare amnesty based on a false promise that our borders would be secured “later”?

I’m not from Texas, but could someone explain to me why, if one of my children wanted to attend a Texas college, that she would pay regular tuition, while someone who’s is not even supposed to be in the country gets the discount rate? Really?

Bottom line: While I don’t trust Romney on anything, I don’t trust Perry on immigration.

I actually understand the liberal elite saying things like this. Gotta stir up the base and all.

What I do not understand is why more liberals who see this stuff aren’t saying “Hey! Just how stupid do you think I am?”

That’s what I don’t understand. I just cannot comprehend this.

For the two cents it’s worth...

I don’t believe that Cain is a puzzle to the “establishment” at all. I think they know that if he’s elected, he would try to fix some of the inefficiencies of our government. “Establishment” types like the status-quo. A small change here and there is fine, but anything major is a threat to their money, power and/or influence.

Same thing with Ron Paul. The “establishment” has already branded Paul as a nutcase, and they’ll try to do the same thing with Cain.

I think that the “establishment” thinks people like Cain and Paul are a threat, not a puzzle. That’s why they must be marginalized.

Romney or Perry would be a safe choice for them. Yes, a President Perry or a President Romney would fight ObamaCare and pull back on some of Obama’s ruinous policies, but other than that, are they really going to change how DC works? I don’t think so.

They got a taste of big government/communism and don’t like it. This cracked me up.

I think that sending them a truckload of Animal Farm books might be considered a public service. A lightbulb might come on for one of two of them.

You gotta admit, Perry must have the balls of a brass monkey to attack Romney on illegal immigration, for Pete’s sake!
One wants to hire illegals and the other wants to give them in state tuition rates. Good grief.

Can we please find a real conservative who has a shot at winning this election??? Or are we going to have 2008 all over again?

I expect them to all go home when the weather turns cold.

I only saw the last hour and I couldn’t tell you who “won”, but here are my impressions.

Cain - I liked him going in and that didn’t change after tonight. He seems to take the job seriously, but not himself. “Happy Warrior” is a good description. Not sure about the 9-9-9 business yet, but then can he implement that if he gets elected? I don’t see how. I liked him from the start. I’ll probably have to settle for another choice, though.

Newt - Doesn’t seem like anyone on stage really sees him as a threat. He’s got the easiest time of it. He doesn’t get attacked and he doesn’t attack. He’s like a grandfather who just makes a good conservative comment here and there and tries to keep the grandkids from fighting. Makes him look wise when he does that. Hope he sticks around just to keep the rest of them focused on Obama instead of throwing rocks at each other. Didn’t work so good tonight, though.

Romney - I’m not really into Mitt because I’m not really sure how he stands on issues. Who does? Seems to have a presidential demeanor, for whatever that’s worth. The haircut makes him look a little uglier, a little less Ken-like. Good idea. He’s the establishment pick at this point, I think, because other than repealing Pelosi-Care he won’t change much and that’s what the establishment is looking for.

Perry - Just from a speaking standpoint, how did he ever get elected as governor? His immigration stance is too off-putting for me to even consider him. Heard he got off some zingers on Romney, but so what? I can see him needing a teleprompter too.

Paul - Lots of people love to hate him, but he brought up some good questions. His demeanor and delivery suggest that an ambulance should be available because he might keel over soon, but that’s not really his fault. His crusade against the Federal Reserve is getting annoying.

Bachman - Speaking of annoying...I liked her in the beginning, but her “Did you know that I’m a mom and have 24 kids?” schtick is old already. If I hear it again I might scream. Didn’t hear it tonight, thank God. Don’t know how she did in the first hour, but in the second hour each question prompted a campaign speech that didn’t answer the question. She’ll be gone soon. I’m hoping before the next debate.

Santorum - Not his fault, but I’d rather listen to fingernails on a blackboard than to his voice. Maybe he’d come across better on radio? He’ll be gone soon too and I won’t be sorry about it. He did make me laugh when he suggested that he could carry PA and so win the election. Didn’t a candidate years ago carry one state and lose the other 49? Funny stuff for me.

I think the only candidates that will change (or attempt to change) anything in DC is either Paul or Cain.

The author seems a bit confused:

“...he also showed that he has little sway with the group that ousted Bennett, folks who seemingly could care less about Romney’s stand.”

“Right or wrong, he’s at least showing that he can lead.”

Considering those two statements, where does one get the idea that Romney is leading? Even if he is showing leadership, it seems that no one is following.

Thank you Mr. President and Speaker Pelosi

Federal tax rates will go up in the coming years to pay for this monstrosity, and by the time my kids and grandkids (if I’m blessed enough to have any) are productive citizens they will wind up paying well over 50% of their income to try to keep this health-care entitlement solvent.

If they are indolent, they will have the government to pay for them. If they do manage to achieve the American Dream (should it still exist), they will be punished with these huge tax hikes. They will have to turn over most of their earned income to the federal government.

Isn’t it interesting that our first black president will have managed to make my children and grandchildren slaves to the federal government?

Okay, then I retract the trial part. I had assumed that his defense would claim that the original trial was tainted, retract his guilty plea and try to start over so he could get a “not guilty”. The more I think about it, the less sense it makes. I stick by the rest of it, though.

If he’s extradited, he gets a slap on the wrist and becomes a hero, then he can come and go as he pleases. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it (unless something else gets pointed out).

Just a thought to turn everyone’s stomach. A possible scenario.

—Polanski is extradited back to California.
—The victim (now adult) doesn’t wish to relive the crime and refuses to testify.
—Having found a lenient California judge, Polanski gets a few months in jail at most.
—After serving time, he can then return to the U.S. at will because he is no longer a fugitive.
—He is treated as a hero in Hollywood and the rest of the media quickly comes around to this point of view.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but that’s nightmarish to me. Don’t doubt it, either. It can happen.

I wonder how much trial lawyers are getting for “positive self-esteem and self-worth” cases these days?

It’s really sad that the article states that someone is entitled to self-esteem and self-worth. As if someone can give it to you or take it away? I don’t get it.

“So I have a case right here.”

That should tell you right there why he did what he did. Wonder how much money he’ll get.

I cannot believe there is not a petition out there to keep her in Israel. Why? They took her in, now they have to keep her.

I’m outta here too. It was a pleasure debating you (or whatever we were doing.) LOL

Good night.

Great talking to you! Good night.

Fun to watch them turn on each other, but alas, it won’t last. Too bad. If I was an optimist I’d say that maybe the press will drift back towards responsible journalism. I’m not an optimist.

I guess it’s okay to lie to the electorate, but not the press, huh? Somehow, I don’t feel much sympathy for Helen and the rest of them.

Then again, I think I’d rather swim. “Bailing out” just leaves a bad taste in my mouth for some reason.