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Well, the Ardennes were thought to be "the end" and impassable. And as you brought up Ghengis Kahn, I'd say that there was one of the all time greatest "failure walls". Should we talk about Hadrian's wall as well?

As to prisons, banks and military bases, these are all relatively small walls which are vigilantly defended.

But the larger point of my post was what are The Priorities? And what are we trying to accomplish? Right, stop illegal immigration. Good, great, admirable! But we have a dysfunctional and corrupt state just to our south. So how do we protect ourselves?

As to your "voluntarily" fest, yes I do think that the vast majority of illegal immigrants would voluntarily come forward to be fingerprinted if it meant that they could stay here. Why? Freedom. They would no longer be in the shadows and afraid. Think this is a small idea? Look to January 30th for advice on this point. And the minority that don't come forward, well, they are hiding in a much smaller forest, and it make them (the drug dealers and other felons) easier to find.

Please don't mistake me, I'm not against a barrier of some kind, I just don't want to waste resources on something that I think will be ineffective. But I ask you again to rank what your objectives are.

A wall, like...like... the Maginot Line! The problem I have with "a wall" is that historically walls have been very bad at keeping people out, as they are static.

Part of the problem with this discussion, imo, is that there are two different questions here: 1) What do we want to do, and 2) how do we do it?

I think we can mostly agree that we don't want opened borders and are against illegal immigration (hey, lets really go out on a limb and say we're also against lawlessness). But then that begs the question of what are we trying to do and what are our priorities? Even our great big bloated government need to set priorities as even the Feds don't have limitless resources. Are we trying to stop terrorists from crossing our border with Mexico, or is our priority getting treatment in our local ER's without being hindered by illegal immigrants being treated for a cold?

So what are our priorities? Are they: a) Stopping islam-o-fascists from entering our country. b) Defending our social infastructure (like hospitals and schools and parks) from free-riding Illegals. c) Defending our culture from an aggressive foreign invasion. d) Fighting lawlessness. e) Add your own priority here. Now, this is my ranking in order of importance. Each of these is important to me, but the most important is a) Stopping islam-o-fascists from entering our country. We've got 10 -20 million illegals here right now, so we need to separate the sheep from the wolves. One really quick way to do that is to have all the sheep (voluntarily) stand up (and get fingerprinted). Will this have unintended consequences, you betcha! But lets not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. The President's plan is good, but far from perfect. But it is by far the most workable plan I've seen.

To Chris: From me and my family, our most sincere and heartfelt thanks for the outstanding job that you all did over there; It was truly spectacular and we can't thank you enough! Our prayers are with you and your family for strength, health and courage.

17. In a new add Senator Kerry whines that the Republicans "are piiiicking on me!"

Really well written! Great piece!