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  • If Obama wins in November, he should thank Rick Santorum

    04/12/2012 10:14:22 PM PDT · 79 of 92
    Once-Ler to TBP
    The only Republican in the past 120+ years who has been able to oust a Democrat President was Ronald Reagan, and he didn’t do it by being a Romney-style moderate. He did it with bold colors, not pale pastels.

    From Common Tator

    Reagan claimed his political heros were Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy.

    Reagan spent 35 years of his life as a registered democrat and gave large sums of money and campaigned for FDR, HST, Stevenson, and JKF.

    It was in 1962 or 63 that Cap Weinburger and Ed Meese thought if Reagan switched to the Republican party he could defeat Democrat Governor Brown in 1966. The problem was how to overcome the certain RINO image that Reagan was sure to get. NO RINO could get the Republican nomination.

    There were few Republicans that wanted to get near Barry Goldwater in 1964. They felt he was the kiss of death. but Cap and Ed Meese decided that if Reagan contacted Goldwater and offered to give a prime time speech that a RINO coming out for Goldwater might help Goldwater pick up a few votes.

    So Goldwater gave Reagan a prime time speech at the Republican convention Rather, Cronkite and Browkaw heard how good Reagan spoke and decided the way to end his life as a politician was to paint him as a Goldwater clone. So they did. And Reagan in one speech went from a far left RINO to a Goldwater Republican with out changing a view.

    That gave him an easy primary victory in 1966 but he spent the 1966, 1970 and 1980 campaigns trying to convince swing voters that he was really a RINO.

    Reagan in his years in office doubled the natioal debt. Had his buddy Democrat Speaker of the House Tip O’Neal over the the white house weekly. Reagan after 1964 never once met with or invited Barry Goldwater to vist him.

    I covered the 1980 Reagan Campaign in the mid-west. The reporters had a bet on who could get him to say the words “Senator Goldwater” first. No one ever did. The winner of the money was a reporter who got reagan to say “The Senator from Arizona.”.. but Reagan would not call Goldwater by name.

    Reagan in his 1980 campaign stump speech claimed that he was the only candidate for president that was a member in good standing of a Union and who had been elected twice to the presidency of his local union.

    Reagan claimed in his stump speech that he had no love for big business. And that he had not ever left the Democratic party.. His views had not changed from the days of FDR and Kennedy. He said the Democratic party had left him.

    I'm too young to remember Reagan's 1980 campaign but I've lived through enough revisionist history to believe Common Tator is correct.

    From another Common Tator post

    And Reagan ran in the industrial north as a Democrat who was still a Democrat in every thing but name. It was just that the Democratic party had changed ... not Reagan. I covered a lot of Reagan speeches in the industrial midwest. He never missed a chance to tell his audience how he had been a Democrat most of his life. He claimed that FDR was his political hero.

    The reason he got more than half the union vote in Ohio was his FDR speech and his pitch that his economic policy was identical to the JFK economic policy. It really ticked Teddy Kennedy off every time Reagan claimed to be a Kennedy fan. Over and over I heard him say of his economic policy, "It worked for JFK and it will work for me."

    I used to do an imitation of Reagan doing his, I have no love for big corporations act. REagan would say, "When I was just a small boy My Dad was let go by a big corporation on Christmas (SNIFF SNIFF) eve (SNIFF). It was our worst Christmas ever.(sniff) I have no special place in my (sniff) heart for big corporations."

    And one more
    The point to be made is that to defeat an incumbent a candidate has to get some voters to change their votes. Telling them they were dumb stupid idiots the last time they voted will only harden their support for the other guy.

    Reagan showed how to beat an incumbent in 1980.. He did not attack Jimmy Carter. What he did was offer plans and the impression that he would make a better president than Carter. Reagan convinced the voters that he would solve problems. Reagan knew better than to make voters defend their vote for Carter in 1980. He offered himself as a better choice in 1980. He did not try to prove that Carter was a bad choice in 1976.

    If you want the boss to fire a someone and hire you in his place, first you have to convince him that you would do a much better job. Leave it to the boss to figure out the current job holder is doing a bad job. The same is true in politics.

    You can see examples of how to lose when you study the attempts to defeat FDR and HST. Republicans attacked the incumbent. They were not about how to do a better job. And even in a continued depression FDR won. And in a recession and a screwed up foreign policy situation HST won. You win elections by convincing the voters that you can solve the problems.

    It is far better to campaign on how to fix the problems than attack the man that holds the office. Attacks on incumbents do not work.

  • See the Liar Romney Defend the Mandate BEFORE Obama was even Elected!

    04/12/2012 9:40:19 PM PDT · 28 of 141
    Once-Ler to Jim Robinson
    I used to like you

    The feeling is mutual.

    but if you keep up your RINO propaganda campaign on FR that will change.

    I have given you a great list of the people who will be responsible if Romney wins the Presidency. I believe Republicans like Paul Ryan, Jan Brewer, Marco Rubio, Pat Toomey, and Darrell Issa may be watching real conservatives valiantly fail to keep a RINO from the GOP Presidential nomination again. They feel empowered to ignore the overwhelming majority of voters who despise abortionist Romney and his traitorous comrades at National Right to Life Committee and the Susan B. Anthony List.

    Back in may of 2010 we were talking about McCain. Just say no to Senator McCain

    You said

    McCain suspended his campaign and rushed back to DC to destroy our country.
    I responded
    As did all but 15 Republican Senators. Should we purge Coburn, Thune, and Burr for voting for the bailout?
    You said
    Yup! Traitors all. Vote them ALL OUT!!
    All three of these traitors endorsed Romney. Why are you angry at me? You call a list of Romney endorsements on this forum a RINO propaganda campaign? I call it a hit list. If we can remove the twenty RINO Senators I listed, we will have 25 solid Conservatives in the Senate and we build up from there. I thought that was the plan. But I admit I am a little fuzzy on that. Sometimes I think we need to take over the GOP, but sometimes it sound like you are telling us to build a third party when you say FUGOP. Either way the list I posted are people who are part of the retched GOPe and need to be held accountable.

    So help me out. Give me your list of conservative Senators, Congressmen, and Governors. Can't be more than a couple dozen that are acceptable.

  • See the Liar Romney Defend the Mandate BEFORE Obama was even Elected!

    04/12/2012 8:10:37 PM PDT · 17 of 141
    Once-Ler to Jim Robinson
    Here's a list of 98 RINO lawmakers we need to purge from the GOPe. They all endorsed Romney this time around.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/173757-2012-lawmaker-endorsements-for-president

    Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.)
    Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.)
    Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.)
    Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) (endorsed Sen. John McCain in 2008)
    Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev.)
    Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.)
    Sen. Mike Johanns (R-Neb.)
    Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)
    Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah)
    Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) (the 2008 GOP nominee)
    Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio)
    Sen. Jim Risch (R-Idaho)
    Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.)
    Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.)
    Rep. Sandy Adams (R-Fla.)
    Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-La.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Mark Amodei (R-Nev.)
    Rep. Charles Bass (R-N.H.)
    Rep. Dan Benishek (R-Mich.) (Initially endorsed Herman Cain; endorsed Romney on Jan. 20)
    Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) (endorsed former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani in 2008)
    Rep. Brian Bilbray (R-Calif.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Rob Bishop (R-Utah) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.)
    Rep. Mary Bono Mack (R-Calif.) (endorsed Giuliani in 2008)
    Rep. Ken Calvert (R-Calif.)
    Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. John Campbell (R-Calif.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.)
    Rep. John Carter (R-Texas) (Initially endorsed Texas Gov. Rick Perry; endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah)
    Rep. Howard Coble (R-N.C.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas) (endorsed Romney in 2008) (Initially backed Perry in 2012)
    Rep. Ander Crenshaw (R-Fla.)(endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Jeff Denham (R-Calif.)
    Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) (endorsed Giuliani in 2008)
    Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-Tenn.)
    Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Rep. Robert Dold (R-Ill.)
    Rep. John Duncan (R-Tenn.) (endorsed ex-Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) in 2008)
    Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.)
    Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Jim Gerlach (R-Pa.) (endorsed Giuliani in 2008)
    Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Tim Griffin (R-Ark.)
    Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.)
    Rep. Nan Hayworth (R-N.Y.)
    Rep. Joe Heck (R-Nev.)
    Rep. Wally Herger (R-Calif.)(endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.)
    Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-Mich.)
    Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Rep. Leonard Lance (R-N.J.)
    Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-Ohio) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-Calif.) (endorsed Giuliani in 2008)
    Rep. Billy Long (R-Mo.)
    Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.)
    Rep. Connie Mack (R-Fla.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.)
    Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.) (endorsed Thompson in 2008; dropped White House bid in September)
    Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.)
    Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.)
    Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.)
    Rep. Candice Miller (R-Mich.) (endorsed Giuliani in 2008 and initially endorsed Perry in 2012)
    Rep. Jeff Miller (R-Fla.) (endorsed Thompson and later McCain in 2008)
    Rep. Pete Olson (R-Texas)
    Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.)
    Rep. Dave Reichert (R-Wash.)
    Rep. Jim Renacci (R-Ohio)
    Rep. Phil Roe (R-Tenn.)
    Rep. Hal Rogers (R-Ky.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.)
    Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Todd Rokita (R-Ind.)
    Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.);
    Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.)
    Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.)
    Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas) (endorsed Giuliani in 2008)
    Rep. John Shimkus (R-Ill.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Rep. Bill Shuster (R-Pa.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-Texas)
    Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio)
    Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
    Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.)
    Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.)
    Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-Ky.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
    Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.)

    And these Governors

    Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona
    Governor Phil Bryant of Mississippi
    Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey
    Governor Nikki Haley of South Carolina
    Governor Bill Haslam of Tennessee
    Governor Dave Heineman of Nebraska
    Governor Gary Herbert of Utah
    Governor Bob McDonnell of Virginia
    Governor Butch Otter of Idaho
    Governor Rick Snyder of Michigan

    We also need to warn real conservatives to stop giving money to the two-faced scumbags at National Right to Life Committee the Susan B. Anthony List. They endorsed babykiller Romney also.

    http://www.gpb.org/news/2012/04/12/romney-scores-key-endorsements-from-anti-abortion-groups

    And of course we need to shutoff talk radio, burn our Ted Nugent records, and boycott Faux news...all of whom are in the tank for Romney.

    God Bless you Jim. We are going to win big despite these deluded fools!

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 6:29:28 PM PDT · 1,192 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to Nik Naym
    So go ahead and try to make Reagan sound like he was pro abortion.

    I didn't say Reagan was pro-abortion I responded to your statement. "If you think Reagan was in any way responsible for even one abortion then you are a raving nut job." And I quoted you so you could tell it was in response. You should get a clue.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 6:01:24 PM PDT · 1,189 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to so_real
    I'm not sure I follow.

    It's common sense. The loser tries to be more like the winner in the next race. Want to move the country to the left elect more liberal rats and DINO enablers. Want to move the country right elect more conservative Republicans and RINO eneablers.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 5:06:43 PM PDT · 1,188 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to sam_paine; so_real; Eagle of Liberty
    But if [marxist Obama] instead finds victory over a Mormon "etch-a-sketch" RINO who reverts to more liberal positions, the GOP is forced to accept that what they needed to do was move even farther left.

    I don't think your getting the stategery. Remember when President George H W Bush broke his promise and signed onto new taxes. Conservatives taught the GOP a lesson and Clinton was elected, but when the second term came The GOP was forced to ally itself with conservatives and nominated arch conservative Bob Dole.

    Remember when conservatives taught the GOP a lesson in 2008. FUJM. No more RINOs. Obama was elected and the GOP was forced to ally with conservatives and nominated right wing Mitt Romney. What a great strategy. Third times the charm.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 4:52:16 PM PDT · 1,187 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to Nik Naym
    If you think Reagan was in any way responsible for even one abortion then you are a raving nut job.

    Reagan’s Darkest Hour

    On June 14, 1967, Ronald Reagan signed the Therapeutic Abortion Act, after only six months as California governor. From a total of 518 legal abortions in California in 1967, the number of abortions would soar to an annual average of 100,000 in the remaining years of Reagan’s two terms — more abortions than in any U.S. state prior to the advent of Roe v. Wade. Reagan’s signing of the abortion bill was an ironic beginning for a man often seen as the modern father of the pro-life movement.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 4:38:34 PM PDT · 1,184 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to DJ MacWoW
    Romney does NOT have the nomination yet.

    He will.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 4:37:38 PM PDT · 1,183 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to Finny
    Sorry if that truth and reality is painful, but it's still the truth and still the reality.

    No it is not reality. It is a opinion, as you say yourself with the words "You are assuming, wrongly IMO."

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 4:18:09 PM PDT · 1,181 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to GeronL
    Which should non-soda drinkers buy in November??

    I am going to brew up some TEA instead!!

    You don't get to buy the tea. We will all be drinking Obama or Romney next year even if you fail to put in you drink order.

  • New Obama campaign video attacks Romney as ‘severely conservative’...That's severely great, Obozo!

    04/11/2012 4:12:35 PM PDT · 11 of 11
    Once-Ler to DNME
    But if Mittens decides to play nice, then we know we have a neo-Dem as the GOP nominee and Mittski is a goner.

    If Romney uses Dubya’s playbook, I'd expect him to play nice while Obama attacks him, until even the MSM starts asking why Romney won't defend himself.

    Dubya used this technique in the run up to the Iraq war. The MSM said Dubya needed to get the American people on board, but Dubya said he had the authority to act as President to defend the nation. The MSM heads exploded and they got louder and louder until Dubya addressed the nation and explained the mission. Then the MSM said Dubya needs to get the Congress on board. Dubya said no I don't. I can act because of the anti-terror legislation passed after 9-11, and the MSM heads exploded and got louder until Dubya went to Congress and got approval to act in Iraq. Then the MSM said “You need to get the UN on board.” Dubya said no I don't I have Congress's approval and Iraq has not complied with 17 already passed UN resolution. The MSM heads exploded again and they got louder until Dubya went to the UN and got approval and a coalition of nations.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 3:47:54 PM PDT · 1,175 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to GeronL
    Life is a series of unpalatable decisions. If I find a friendly coworker is stealing from the company I must choose to turn in my thieving friend, or risk termination. You say you would do neither. Sophistry.
  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 3:36:23 PM PDT · 1,168 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to pops88
    I did not vote for Obama. My hands are clean

    That seems to be the same thinking of many Freepers Pontius Pilate. Since I didn't vote for the lesser of 2 evils, the election of the greater of two evils is not my fault. If you will not fight against the greater of two evils you will be judged.

  • New Obama campaign video attacks Romney as ‘severely conservative’...That's severely great, Obozo!

    04/11/2012 2:36:45 PM PDT · 8 of 11
    Once-Ler to AngelesCrestHighway
    It is possible that Obama saw conservatives rally against Romney this year and McCain in 2008. When conservatives failed to keep a moderate off the GOP top ticket, Obama concluded conservatives are a powerless minority rejected by even GOP voters.
  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 1:19:07 PM PDT · 1,140 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to RinaseaofDs
    I don’t prefer Obama

    I’m with Alexander Hamilton on this - If we can’t nominate a conservative, then let the liberal win

    You sound conflicted.

    I’d like to hear your views on those differences.

    Obama hates America, and YT, and pals with terrorists.
    Here are some Obama Romney differences

    Here are a couple columns by Ann Coulter
    SEND LIZZIE BORDEN TO WASHINGTON
    WHAT'S THEIR PROBLEM WITH ROMNEY?

    Of course, we both know that no amount of truth is going to change your mind. But now you can stop pretending to be ignorant, when you are just disingenuous.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/11/2012 12:00:25 PM PDT · 1,117 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to RinaseaofDs
    The liberals have a point. If you want to screw it up, at least be honest about it. Liberals will come out and tell you the Constitution has outlived its usefulness.

    "At least Jefferson was honest," said Hamiliton. Looks like you believe Obama is honest. One of two men will be president next year. I prefer Romney you prefer Obama. Why do you have a problem with me pointing out pro Obama Freepers?

    You lost the election this year no matter who wins.

    I'm a Republican. If Romney wins I'm good. Conservatives tried to stop Romney and proved they don't have to power to nominate a candidate. Just like they failed to stop McCain's nomination in 2008. If Romney wins the election he will owe nothing to conservatives. So you lost the election this year no matter who wins. Put some ice on it. Walk it off. Drink a little.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/10/2012 9:31:30 PM PDT · 949 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to Norm Lenhart
    Badmouth AB? You have serious comprehension issues.

    You compare Patrick Henry and Breitbart with the words "some old dead white guy." You don't even comprehend your words.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/10/2012 9:10:39 PM PDT · 934 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to Publius
    "There's not a dime's worth of difference between the two parties." -- Barry Goldwater, 1963

    It was George Wallace who said it in 1968

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/10/2012 8:59:51 PM PDT · 924 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to Norm Lenhart
    Tell me again how Romney’s ACTUAL Mass record differs from the goals of Occupy...I’ll wait.

    keep waiting. No amount of truth is not going to pull the blinders off you. You must think Romney hates America, pals around with terrorists, and hates YT. If you want to educate yourself try reading or listening to Rush, Hannity, Levin, Coulter, or the hundreds of other conservative pundits who will ALL be supporting Romney in Nov.

    And I’ll take that Liberty or death quote from some old dead white guy over AB.

    Wow. A Freeper who badmouths Breitbart. The GOP isn't dead...This forum is dead.

  • Notice: FR is and will remain a pro-life, small government conservative site.

    04/10/2012 8:23:25 PM PDT · 902 of 1,370
    Once-Ler to G Larry
    So you can complain about the poor menu or starve, it’s your choice.

    It is a great analogy.

    I will march behind who ever our candidate is. Because if we don't, we lose.

    There are two paths! There are two paths! One is America, the other is Occupy! One is America, the other is Occupy! And I don't care, and along the way... I've realized over the last three years that the Republican Party and the conservative movement is not what ABC, CBS and NBC put on the screen.

    They try to portray you in the worst possible light... and when I travel around the United States meeting people in the Tea Party who care -- black, white, gay, straight -- anyone that's willing to stand next to me to fight the progressive left, I will be in that bunker, and if you're not in that bunker 'cause you're not satisfied with this candidate, more than shame on you. You're on the other side." - Andrew Breitbart CPAC 2012